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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Oxfordshire => Topic started by: noseyoap on Sunday 14 March 21 18:59 GMT (UK)
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Hope somebody can guide in the right direction, I am looking for Joseph Guntrip who I believe was born about 1775 in Kingston Blount. He married Catherine Yates in 1797 in Thame, she died in 1851 in Kingston Stret. I cannot find either a birth or death for Joseph, can anyone tell me what district these birth and deaths would be registered in. I have sent for a death certificate for 1852 but it’s the wrong Joseph
Thanks in anticipation
Pat
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Thame would be the registration district.
eg GUNTRIP, CATHERINE 81
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in THAME Volume 16 Page 96
when was joseph last seen in census?
Was Catherine a wife or a widow on her death certificate?
is this him in Dorton? ? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGX3-WR3
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/thame.html
GUNTRIP, JOSEPH 76
GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in THAME Volume 03A Page 321
GUNTRIP, JOSEPH 51
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in THAME Volume 03A Page 303
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Have got Catherine’s death in 1851 so she won’t be on 1851 census but cannot find Joseph on it or either of them on 1841. Their children were all baptised in Aston Rowant but does Kingston Mount and Kingston Stret come under Aston Rowant?
I ordered the death certificate for the 1852 death age 76 but it wasn’t him and the other one will be too young. Trouble is we have so many transcription errors for the name Guntrip so thought I might be able to go through the birth and death records if I knew which authority they come under, on the disc I have. As Catherine died in Kingston Stret thought maybe Joseph would also have died there.
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Was he alive in 1841?
And was Catherine a wife or widow at her death?
is this Catherine in 1841? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7QJ-9VP
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I have sent for a death certificate for 1852 but it’s the wrong Joseph
Can I ask what made him the wrong Joseph?
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The certificate district is Brill (I think) and it refers to Dorton. Informant is Eliza Guntrip but I cannot fit her into the family. Is Dorton anywhere near Kingston Stret
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Sorry cannot manage to download the certificate for some reason
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I think I will be better ordering Catherine’s death certificate see if I can get any help from it
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This may help you with the association of Aston Rownant and Kingston Blount.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/OXF/aston_rownant
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Thank you for that it does explain quite a bit as some of the family are listed in Lewknor, Chinnor and Thame. So I presume they should all come under Aston Rowant.
Thanks everyone for helping I have now ordered Catherine’s death certificate
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And the map from NLS:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=51.68697&lon=-0.94044&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld
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Catherine GUNTRIP was buried at Aston Rowant 2 Feb 1851. Her abode is shown as Kingston Stert.
You won't find her burial on Ancestry as it must have been mistranscribed or simply missed - I've found it using my trusty OFHS transcript CD and then looking for an entry close to her burial to see the image on Ancestry.
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Thank you for that, that’s the problem there is so many interpretation for Guntrip I have really been struggling. Don’t suppose you found a death for Joseph? That’s why I wanted to know what the registration district would be for Kingston Stret as I presume that was where he died and I was going to look through the records, also does Kingston Blount come under Aston Rowant records as I was going to look for Joseph’s birth somewhere around 1775
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Thank you for that, that’s the problem there is so many interpretation for Guntrip I have really been struggling. Don’t suppose you found a death for Joseph? That’s why I wanted to know what the registration district would be for Kingston Stret as I presume that was where he died and I was going to look through the records, also does Kingston Blount come under Aston Rowant records as I was going to look for Joseph’s birth somewhere around 1775
No - no death for Joseph, that I could see. Looking at an Ordnance Survey Map, Kingston Blount does not have a church, so the nearest parish would be Aston Rowant. Kingston Stert is actually nearer to Sydenham, but Catherine was buried at Aston Rowant, so maybe this was the church that the couple used? There are really 4 churches in the vicinity; Aston Rowant, Lewknor, Sydenham and Chinnor, the first three were in Thame Registration District at the time you are interested in and Chinnor was in Wycombe. You would need to investigate whether they were all in operation at the time.
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Hi, i seem to have drawn a blank as i went through the Oxfordshire death register that is on Ancestry but couldnt find him only Guntrip died in 1820 so dont think that was him. Beginning to think this one \i have received must be him but the registras district is Brill and will have to see if I can find an Eliza Guntrip in the tree. Also went through the Oxfordshire birth register for Aston Rowant to see if I could fid his birth with no sucess. Thinking of giving up but thanks very much for your help
Pat
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Just to let you know I have now received the death certificate for Catherine Guntrip and she is the WIDOW of Joseph Guntrip Shoemaker so it was worth sending for. It will teach me not to take notice of what other people have put on their tree as most people have his death as 1852 good job I always double check everything.
Thanks everyone for your help
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Good to see that you got the right result. :)