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Title: Where are William and Ellen FORD in 1871 and 1881 ?
Post by: gmc4404 on Friday 12 March 21 13:31 GMT (UK)
Where are William and Ellen in 1871 and 1881 (if Ellen is not dead)?

William Robert FORD
Born 11 May 1821 (Southwark)
Died 1872 (Norwood Cemetery Lambeth)

Married (??)

Ellen Marie [UNKNOWN]
Born 1830 (?)
Died ??

Children
William Thomas FORD (1850-1898)
Frederick Charles FORD (1853-1917)
Henry Edward FORD (1855-1887)
Ellen Maria FORD (1858-1929)

1851 Census [P 1549 F 116 Page 2]
William FORD (30)  Coal Merchant Clerk
Ellen FORD (21)
William FORD (4m)

1861 Census [P 281 F 166 Page 33]
William FORD (40)  Commercial Clerk
Ellen FORD (31)
William FORD (10)
Frederick FORD (7)
Henry FORD (5)
Ellen FORD (2)

In 1871 I can find the children but not the parents William and Ellen

1871 Census [P 542 F 22 Page 37]
William FORD (20) Lighterman
Frederick Charles FORD (18) Clerk
Henry Edward FORD (15) Lighterman

1871 Census [P 942 F 28 Page 10]
Ellen FORD (12) Boarder

1881 Census [P 448 F 77 Page 15]
William Thomas FORD (30)  Lighterman
Louisa Anne FORD (31)
  + children
Frederick FORD (28) Clerk
Ellen FORD (22)

Any help appreciated
Thanks
Title: Re: Where are William and Ellen FORD in 1871 and 1881 ?
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 12 March 21 14:17 GMT (UK)
   FORD, WILLIAM  THOMAS     EDMED 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST)  Volume 02  Page 105

   FORD, ELLEN  MARIA     EDGCOMB 
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in HAVANT  Volume 02B  Page 316
   FORD, ELLEN  MARIA     EDMED 
GRO Reference: 1858  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 413
   FORD, ELLEN  MARIA     WILES 
GRO Reference: 1859  D Quarter in MEDWAY  Volume 02A  Page 343
Title: Re: Where are William and Ellen FORD in 1871 and 1881 ?
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Friday 12 March 21 14:18 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Haven't found them in the 1871 and 1881 census yet but I found their marriage record and thought it might help you if you want to trace Ellen's line:

24 Feb 1850
West Hackney, Hackney

William Ford, full age, Commercial Clerk, son of William Ford, Commercial Clerk

Ellen Edmed, minor (she was 20), daughter of Thomas Edmed, Farmer

They both signed their names. The witnesses were William & Harriet Scrivener.

Queenie  :)

Title: Re: Where are William and Ellen FORD in 1871 and 1881 ?
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 12 March 21 19:34 GMT (UK)
Some family researchers show father William's death as being on 25 Jan 1871 at 29 Great Hermitage St. Wapping, St.George in the East. There is a corresponding death on the GRO for a William Ford, aged 50 - St. Geo. East - 1c/368.

There are possible entries for deaths for an Ellen Ford in that 1860s decade. With age on the indexes not showing before 1866, hard to say if she could be one of them. There is this one for example in the 2nd Qrt 1865.

Ellen Ford - St Geo East - 1C/318    

Between 1866-71, nothing really jumping out on deaths for her that I can see.

Monica
Title: Re: Where are William and Ellen FORD in 1871 and 1881 ?
Post by: osprey on Friday 12 March 21 19:38 GMT (UK)
the age given on the GRO index for that 1865 death reg is 35 so a good match for age on the census entries.
Title: Re: Where are William and Ellen FORD in 1871 and 1881 ?
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 12 March 21 19:42 GMT (UK)
Bad me...only checked FreeBMD for her death  ::) Thanks Osprey for confirming.

Monica
Title: Re: Where are William and Ellen FORD in 1871 and 1881 ?
Post by: gmc4404 on Friday 12 March 21 22:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you Monica, Queenie and Pauline

All very helpful.
I also tried to locate the marriage but did not see that one - a couple of others that led me nowhere.

I had also seen that death for William Ford in 1871 but for some reason (which I should have written down somewhere) i decided it was not appropriate.  I will have another look

Thanks for your efforts .
Greg