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Hello new to RootsChat.
How do I go about searching burial records for two children born to my 2x great grandparents that died in between census records. One born/died between 1878 & 1880 the other born/died 1884/1888 both in Barnsley, Yorkshire ? Thank you
Kind regards
LadyDee
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Welcome to Rootschat,
Try the Dearne Memorial Group website which covers a number of cemeteries in the area
https://www.cemeteries.org.uk/
There is a charge for accessing the details of their records
Hope this helps.
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Hi lady dee do you have the names of the children if you post them somebody might be able to find them also the archives might have the records of burial sometimes they do
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Danieloftyne
Thank you for your enquiry but I don’t have the names of the children. It was noticed on the 1911 census of my 2x great grandmother that 8 children had been born alive to the marriage years earlier but only 5 were still alive. We know one daughter died shortly after having a baby herself leaving two children we were not aware of. I wondered if it were possible to trace their deaths using only the parents names, they were Catholic so feel sure the deaths would be registered somewhere in Barnsley.
Regards Dawn
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Do you know the maiden name of the mother? If you do you can search the GRO records using the family surname and the mother's maiden name. If you enter Barnsley in the Registration box that will narrow it down for you.
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Yes it was Egan although I have found her name under different spellings Agan, Hagen, Eagan......
They would have been born and died roughly between 1878 & 1880, 1884 & 1890 Possibly 1892 & 1896 it’s rather a puzzle!
Thank you Dee
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From the GRO site:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
Girls's born:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, ROSAMOND THERESA SIDEBOTTOM
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 168
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, ELIZABETH ELLEN HAIGH
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 168
EGAN, EMMA JANE HAIGH
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 236
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, FLORENCE GERTRUDE BLACKER
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 168
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, ALICE MURIEL JEBSON
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in BARNSLEY Volume 09C Page 200
EGAN, WINIFRED MABEL JEBSON
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in BARNSLEY Volume 09C Page 202
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Boys:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, JOHN WILLIAM HAIGH
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 153
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, - HAIGH
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 165
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, CHARLES HAIGH
GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 210
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, ALFRED ERNEST BLACKER
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 168
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
EGAN, HORACE ERVIN JEBSON
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in BARNSLEY Volume 09C Page 198
EGAN, JOSEPH BLACKER
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in BARNSLEY Volume 09C Page 193
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Thank you
Parents were Patrick & Maria Kelly (maiden name Egan, Agen, Hagan, Eagan)
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I found a Kelly born to an Egan in 1892 ;D
KELLY, KATIE EGAN
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 243
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
KELLY, MARY VIOLET EGAN
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 558
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
KELLY, MARGARET EGAN
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 303
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
KELLY, MICHAEL EGAN
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in HASLINGDEN Volume 08E Page 151
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
KELLY, JAMES THOMAS EGAN
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 571 (Barnsley not in search field)
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
KELLY, JAMES THOMAS EGAN
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 456 (Barnsley not in search)
Are you trying to find the children who died and their death dates?
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Alan of Kelso
I’ll look into the Katie Kelly birth although Maria would have been in her late 40’s 🤔 thank you for helping me you’re very kind. I think a possibility between 1884 & 1888 would be a good possibility.
Dawn
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Did I mention Elizabeth Kelly in 1883?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
KELLY, ELIZABETH EGAN
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 277
KELLY, MARGARET EGAN
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 303
KELLY, MARY EGAN
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in HAYFIELD Volume 07B Page 802
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
KELLY, MARY VIOLET EGAN
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 558
So many names and dates plus I look up my own stuff at the same time which further confuses
PS: Names shared in this post only came up by taking Barnsley out of search field
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If you look at Barnsley 1889 there is a Nora Kelly born to a very similar sounding name...
KELLY, NORA Mother: AGEN
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 241
1892 entry to compare
KELLY, KATIE EGAN
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 243
One from 1883
KELLY, FRANCES AGEN
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 232
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Once again thank you Alan
Frances and Nora were born to Patrick and Maria Kelly (my 2x great grandparents) and lived well into their 80’s they lived in Barnsley all their lives. Is it possible to find out if there were any Kelly births in Manchester between 1877 + 1881 mothers maiden name Egan?
Dawn
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Here's the ones with similar sounding mother's name...
KELLY, MARIA JANE HAGIN
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 281
KELLY, MARY ANN HAGIN
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 354
KELLY, ELIZABETH EGAN
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 277
KELLY, ELLEN EMMA HAGIN
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 271
KELLY, EMMA ELLEN HAGIN
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 304
KELLY, AGNES HAGIN
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 278
KELLY, MARGARET EGAN
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 303
KELLY, SARAH ELLEN HAGAN
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 302
Male name:
KELLY, JOHN WILLIAM EDWARD JOSEPH HAGIN
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 314
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Thank you for these Alan but these dates coincide with the births of Patrick and Maria’s other children.
Much appreciated though
Dawn
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On the Gro when you look up deaths it only lists name and age but not mother's maiden name...and of course many Kelly's die each year so the list is long (2 pages). If you find out any more I can help lookup possibly.
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Thank you Alan
I’ll do some further research many thanks for your time and help.
Dawn