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Looking for anything further back on James Chapman born Eltham? 1901/2. He married Agnes Sarah Ayling dob Feb 1902 in 1926 in Eltham. His mother's name unknown.
According to stories he may have been born out of wedlock to gentry, but marriage cert has his father as a labourer also James Chapman. (Also not found)
No known siblings.
Thankyou for any info. if found
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Annoyingly I can see Agnes on 1939, as married, but James not with her. Was hoping to get an exact dob for him. Any idea where he was? Or what he did for a living?
The marriage was 26 Dec 1926, so right at the end of the year, so chances are he would have had his birthday for 1926. As he says he is 25, assuming he has that right, then one would estimate his year of birth to be 1901.
The only one I can see vaguely in that area in 1911 is a son of James and Ellen, living in Limehouse
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Thanks for that quick research! Equally annoying is why I can't pinpoint him, as in the first message, that's all we have on him! Not even a dob.
I'll certainly research the Limehouse link.
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Who were the witnesses to the marriage. What was his occupation
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His marriage from freebmd
Marriages Dec 1926
Ayling Agnes S Chapman Lewisham 1d 1942
Chapman James Ayling Lewisham 1d 1942
Is the image for this marriage on Ancestry by any chance?
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Ignore my previous post, just realised you have that information ::)
Possible birth if he is thought to be illegitimate?
CHAPMAN, JAMES -
GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 416
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There is a baptism, Mother Ellen Chapman.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NT1M-KR7
AND a census worth investigating?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9HX-XCT
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There is an Ellen and James Chapman living here 113, Mayall Road, Lambeth, London & Surrey in the 1901 census.
Ellen is single and is listed as a sister.
Registration district Lambeth
Piece number 430
Folio 13
Page 18
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GRO Birth Index Shows a Birth December Quarter 1883 Ellen Chapman, Lambeth District Vol 1d Page 518
Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Freebmd shows a Marriage in September Quarter 1869 in Camberwell Vol 1d page 831
of a Frederick Chapman to an Eliza Gridley
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Thanks all. No link to the Limehouse connection. Have since been made aware that he died circa 1951.
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Possible death here
Deaths Jun 1951
CHAPMAN James 50 Lambeth 5c 1095
Gives a birth year of 1901
I'm assuming he died in the London area.
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GRO Birth Index Shows a Birth December Quarter 1883 Ellen Chapman, Lambeth District Vol 1d Page 518
Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Freebmd shows a Marriage in September Quarter 1869 in Camberwell Vol 1d page 831
of a Frederick Chapman to an Eliza Gridley
Ellen was Child number 8 of the 8 Children her Parents had :-
Frederick Henry Chapman March Quarter 1871 Lambeth Vol 1d page 509 Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Eliza Chapman March Quarter 1872 Lambeth Vol 1d page 521 Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Mary Ann Chapman June Quarter 1874 Lambeth Vol 1d page 503 Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Kezia Chapman June Quarter 1875 Lambeth Vol 1d page 511 Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Richard Chapman March Quarter 1877 Lambeth Vol 1d page 541 Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Ruth Chapman December Quarter 1880 Lambeth Vol 1d page 518 Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Rose Chapman September Quarter 1882 Lambeth Vol 1d page 509 Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley
Ellen Chapman December Quarter 1883 Lambeth Vol 1d page 518 Mother's Maiden Name = Gridley