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Title: Callan Workhouse
Post by: denben on Monday 22 February 21 20:32 GMT (UK)
I have found a record of a death in the workhouse in 1916 which could be a relative.  The death was registered by an official so there are no family members named although it says he was married.  Are there any workhouse records available?  How could I identify him?
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 22 February 21 20:45 GMT (UK)
Are there any workhouse records available? 

See http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Callan/

Scroll down to 'Records'


KG

Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: heywood on Monday 22 February 21 20:49 GMT (UK)

Does the death record give a residence - sometimes it states ‘from ....’ under the name.

If not, have you found a similarly named person in 1911 census?
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: Sandblown on Monday 22 February 21 21:00 GMT (UK)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news

The above Website holds Registered Deaths for that period.
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: denben on Monday 22 February 21 21:20 GMT (UK)
KG, thanks.  I'll have a look when I can travel to Kilkenny.

heywood, no residence.  I have my relative's army records, marriage cert, birth certs of his two children, entry on 1911 census (aged 46) but no record after.  His army records show 4 different ages!

He's alive in 1914 when declared 'medically unfit when trying to re-enlist.

There are a few birth certs which could be him (same father's name as on marriage cert) but can't identify.

Need his birth certificate to go back further. Hoping death cert would help.
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: denben on Monday 22 February 21 21:22 GMT (UK)
Sandblown, yes that's the info I have that says he died in Callan Workhouse.
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 22 February 21 21:50 GMT (UK)

You could e-mail Kilkenny County Library HQ and ask for assistance. Scroll down for contact details-
https://www.kilkennylibrary.ie/eng/our_services/local_studies/archives/

I have found a record of a death in the workhouse in 1916 which could be a relative.  The death was registered by an official so there are no family members named although it says he was married. 

If you link to his death record, we can assist you in finding a birth record.


KG



Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: denben on Monday 22 February 21 22:20 GMT (UK)
KG, I'll do that.

We visited Kilkenny library some years ago and were given lots of info by a very enthusiastic gentleman.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: heywood on Monday 22 February 21 22:51 GMT (UK)
Just to add:
Was he living in the Callan area in 1911?
Does the occupation match?
Have you looked for wife’s death/children’s marriages - although as he died quite young, they might not help.
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: heywood on Monday 22 February 21 23:35 GMT (UK)
KG, thanks.  I'll have a look when I can travel to Kilkenny.

heywood, no residence.  I have my relative's army records, marriage cert, birth certs of his two children, entry on 1911 census (aged 46) but no record after.  His army records show 4 different ages!

He's alive in 1914 when declared 'medically unfit when trying to re-enlist.

There are a few birth certs which could be him (same father's name as on marriage cert) but can't identify.

Need his birth certificate to go back further. Hoping death cert would help.

I hope you don’t mind but going off what you say here, I might have identified him in 1911 - only a few 46 yr olds :)
The search looks fairly straightforward using his residence on his marriage and then searching the census for that townland.
There is a likely family there and records to match.
It looks then that your man can be tracked back.
It would seem that he was born before civil registration but there is a baptism.
Mind you, I could have the wrong man entirely but I am just trying to show that it seems possible from the available records.
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: denben on Tuesday 23 February 21 00:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Heywood,  I have him on the 1911 in Callan.  I know where he lived and I'm aware that he had two children (one of them my wife's mother).  I'm trying to find his birth cert to identify his parents.

Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 23 February 21 07:52 GMT (UK)
I will send you a message.
Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: denben on Tuesday 23 February 21 14:27 GMT (UK)
I believe I've identified his parents thanks to heywood.  Thanks also to KG.

Looking forward to travelling from South Wales to Kilkenny to visit family and continue research when restrictions are lifted.

Title: Re: Callan Workhouse
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 23 February 21 14:32 GMT (UK)
Enjoy  :)