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Title: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: kiwiwilly on Sunday 21 February 21 22:18 GMT (UK)
Looking for help to trace Arabella Williams born 1825, Cilcain, parents Robert Williams and Jane Hughes.  Ihave found an Arabella Williams in the 1841, living with a Sarah Hughes and is a servant, age 15. Sarah may be her grandmother.
I can not find any trace of, Arabella after 1841,  no marriage or death. I have found marriages for an Arabella Williams but have been unable to verify them  .  Can anyone help please?
Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 21 February 21 22:39 GMT (UK)
Marriage 1842 in Liverpool to Joseph Roberts per www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

IGNORE

Marriage cert shows father as William - not Robert
Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 21 February 21 23:16 GMT (UK)
Are you certain about her parentage?

There is a Cilcain baptism 6.9.1823 for an Arabella Williams - parents William & Elizabeth.

In 1841 - ages from 16 upwards were rounded down to the nearest 5 yrs.  If she was born 1823 she would be 17/18 in 1841 so would be shown as 15

Arabella Williams baptised 19.10.1825 Cilcain parents Robert & Jane

Arabella Williams baptised 16.4.1826 Cilcain - parents John & Mariah
Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: kiwiwilly on Monday 22 February 21 00:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you CaraL. Arabella was baptised 19 Otober 1825. Also checked her birth on Family search 1825, Parents Robert and Jane.    There is a marriage in the 1850's for Arabella and a John Hughes but I cannot confirm it is the Correct Arabella. 
Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 22 February 21 08:32 GMT (UK)
The 1851 marriage between Arabella Williams and John Hughes was at Holywell, Arabellas father was Edward Williams
Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 22 February 21 12:23 GMT (UK)
Apart from the baptismal entry & given the other 2 baptisms - what other evidence do you have that her parents were Robert & Jane? 

Do you have any supporting evidence that she survived infancy?

There is a Liverpool 1851 entry for an Arabella Williams aged 28 b Flintshire & there is a marriage in 1855 Arabella Williams to Benjamin Quinn but her father was Edward

Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: kiwiwilly on Tuesday 23 February 21 10:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol I have the family oj dobert and Jane. The only member I can not find information on is Arabella.  I have had contact with with others  with trees of the family. They all have Arabella . J have the baptisms 0f all others and they all Name Robert and Jane as parents.
  However it is qite possible she died in chilhood or late teens As I stated I can not find a death or marriage.   Possibly parish records may find an answer but I am not well versed on using them,  hence my request for help 

Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: Jo Harding on Tuesday 23 February 21 14:52 GMT (UK)
There is a death for an Arabella Williams in Holywell Registration District in the December quarter of 1840. Vol 27 Page 184. Cilcain is within this district.

Jo
Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 23 February 21 15:16 GMT (UK)
The 1840 Arabella Williams was 91yrs old
Title: Re: williams Family Cilcain
Post by: kiwiwilly on Friday 06 May 22 06:52 BST (UK)
Just want to thank  everyone for heip. ( Taken a long time  through circumstances) Arabella died 1827
aged 2  Buried Bistre