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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: Bathonian on Tuesday 16 February 21 16:25 GMT (UK)
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I've been tracing the Smedley's back and came to Walter Lillywhite Smedley who married Elizabeth b.1844 at Lynn, Norfolk. I must be missing something, but in this family the Smedley name disappears. Does anyone have a clue why I seem to have lost the Smedley name. Many thanks for any help in putting me back on track.
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I must be missing something, but in this family the Smedley name disappears.
Not quite sure what you mean there - do you mean Walter and Elizabeth gave their children a different surname? If so what was it?
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Can you give an example of a census you have them on please as having trouble finding them :-\
Can't see a birth for that name in 1849 Arundel.
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Maybe this one (1871 census).
Crystal ball's a bit murky tonight.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBC8-XRJ
No signs of a Smedley surname in ANY apparently related records.
LILLEYWHITE, HARRY PEARCE
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 512
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Thanks Pauline yes that could be it.
I see no Smedley on other census either so need to know where you found the name please Bathonian.
No marriage to Elizabeth that I can see.
Which Smedley person leads back to Walter do you think?
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Hello
Could this be Walter ?
Baptised at Arundel
25 Feb 1849
Walter Lillywhite son of William and Charlotte Lillywhite
William was a Bricklayer
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Hi....
It seems to appear with son Arthur b @1867.
In 1901 and 1911 Arthur is married to Agnes family name is Lillywhite.
However he married as
Arthur Lillywhite Smedley bach bricklayer father Walter Lillywhite Smedley.
Witness Harry Lillywhite
Happy Frost. Who later marry.
Arthur's son Arthur also marries as Arthur Harry Smedleyfather given as Arthur Lillywhite Smedley.
So how or why does Arthur use the name Smedley?
I can find Harry's birth in Leeds. BUT cannot see an Arthur......any one else?
Tazzie
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This one I guess:
GRO BIRTHS
SMEDLEY, ARTHUR WILLIAM mmn PEARCE
1867 M Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 119
Maureen
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Well done.....
Just realised I put Pearson in its Pearce.....
Tazzie
Baptism Arthur William Smedley Feb 3 1867 father William mother Elizabeth at St Mark St Marylebone.
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I've been tracing the Smedley's back and came to Walter Lillywhite Smedley who married Elizabeth b.1844 at Lynn, Norfolk.
His name was just Walter LILLYWHITE and you can follow him back easily. I would think that either Walter wasn't Arthur's father or Walter was using an alias. Both Walter LILLYWHITE and William SMEDLEY were bricklayers.
Elizabeth was a good bit older than Walter and they don't appear to have married. Walter would have only been 18 when Arthur was born.
Debra :)
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Sorry I've been a little slow in replying, but I've been going through all the records to try and find where the Smedley name first appeared. It seems that that Arthur Henry was baptised in Paddington in July 1899, his parents were given as Arthur William and Agnes Smedley, but at his marriage to Rose Draper in August 1926, he was just Smedley, but his father was given as Lillywhite Smedley, but as witness to the marriage, his bother Harry was Lillywhite. He was also Smedley on his army medal records, and in the 1939 record he, along with sister Nellie and his mother Agnes were all Smedleys, it seems that he didn't want anything to do with the name, Lillywhite, but his father couldn't make up his mind. So beginning with him all the families down to the present day have been named Smedley. I suppose there must have been some secret or other involving the father Arthur William that's going to remain a secret. But it still irks me that I'm unable to work out where or why the name Smedley was chosen. Many thanks for your contributions, much appreciated.
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But it still irks me that I'm unable to work out where or why the name Smedley was chosen. Many thanks for your contributions, much appreciated.
Well if you had given a census record, we'd have got a lot further a lot sooner.
It looks to me that the boys' mother probably married Mr Smedley, and then ditched him and shacked up with Mr Lillywhite .
Pauline