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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: geraldine96 on Tuesday 16 February 21 16:21 GMT (UK)
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Dear roots chatters, I need my 2x gt grandmother's catholic baptism certificate for my application to become an Irish Citizen.
My 2x Great grandmother was born before civil reg. she was born in 1843 in Ferns. The Parish records have her birth which I have found on Ancestry and the NLI site.
Am I supposed to print the page directly from the computer or apply to the Catholic Parish in Ferns for a written certificate, who should I contact exactly?
I am also expected to provide the marriage certs for 3 generations of my Irish ancestors. I have all the correct certificates for my Irish grandmother (generation1) but her mother was born in the Enniscorthy Workhouse. Her birth in the work house is on record but without her father being named. There are no marriages recorded for either my gt. grandmother or my gt. gt. grandmother; although the births of their children (born Enniscorthy Workhouse) are registered but no fathers named. Would these circumstances make an Irish citizenship application impossible - I hope rootschat can help.... Geraldine96
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I feel that this sort of thing must have cropped up before in the official process. Have you checked all the FAQs or notes provided to help you with the application? It would be better to ask the questions of the official department than rely on the experience of others which might not fit your own personal circumstances.
There are a number of different routes to become an Irish citizen: by descent is just one of them and I know there are variations according to how many generations back the Irish birth was.
Nell
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I do not think you need all those things.I am hoping to do the same.
I have been held up by the fact they couldnt find my Grandmother,s birth and no wonder as the kind folk on here found that the name had been wrongly transcribed at time of registration.
If you have a grandpparent born in Ireland then you need that grandparent's birth and marriage certs( obtained from Roscommon GRO. You will find application form on theiir site.
You do not need your gt grandparents details.
Your grandmother,s baptism you do not need if she was born after birth registration became compulsory.
Shhould you wish to find it many parish records are
Give name and date of birth or baptism and parents names and they will find you the record and send you a copy. If they cannot find it they will refund your money.
Then you need the grandparent,s marriage cert again from same place. Then you need your own birth and marriage cert.
You then follow instructions and send all to the address given together with payment requested.
If your mother or father were born in Ireland then it is much easier.
Certs are 20euros each from GRo roscommon .you need full copies.
Good Luck.
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Dear roots chatters, I need my 2x gt grandmother's catholic baptism certificate for my application to become an Irish Citizen.
My 2x Great grandmother was born before civil reg. she was born in 1843 in Ferns. The Parish records have her birth which I have found on Ancestry and the NLI site.
Am I supposed to print the page directly from the computer or apply to the Catholic Parish in Ferns for a written certificate, who should I contact exactly?
I am also expected to provide the marriage certs for 3 generations of my Irish ancestors. I have all the correct certificates for my Irish grandmother (generation1) but her mother was born in the Enniscorthy Workhouse. Her birth in the work house is on record but without her father being named. There are no marriages recorded for either my gt. grandmother or my gt. gt. grandmother; although the births of their children (born Enniscorthy Workhouse) are registered but no fathers named. Would these circumstances make an Irish citizenship application impossible - I hope rootschat can help.... Geraldine96
You say 3 generations of ancestors. I don't think so - I believe the 3 generations includes you, so only two generations of ancestors. You need an Irish grandparent. You can't claim via a great-grandparent unless your parent was registered as an Irish citizen. If registered, the chain can be extended ad infinitum, as far as I know.
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In any case, if you do want an actual baptismal certificate, then that is rather easy. Just apply to the parish office. http://fernsparish.ie/contact/ (http://fernsparish.ie/contact/)
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Thanks wexflyer your replies are always full of helpful info. My father was the only child of my Irish grandmother who came from Ferns. My father however was born in London and his father was English. I believe my father lived his life as a British citizen.
If myself and my father(now deceased) are English and resident in England can we count ourselves as part of the 3 generations whose paperwork is needed to apply for citizenship? Thankyou for any further details re my enquiry. Geraldine96
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Scroll down to grandparent- the third section down
https://www.dfa.ie/citizenship/
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Thanks wexflyer your replies are always full of helpful info. My father was the only child of my Irish grandmother who came from Ferns. My father however was born in London and his father was English. I believe my father lived his life as a British citizen.
If myself and my father(now deceased) are English and resident in England can we count ourselves as part of the 3 generations whose paperwork is needed to apply for citizenship? Thankyou for any further details re my enquiry. Geraldine96
I am pretty certain that you only need one grandparent born in Ireland (or Irish citizen, not quite the same). I have gone through this for my children. Needed their birth certs, my marriage, my birth cert, and my parents birth certs. Probably their marriage as well.
Just to be sure, why not post this issue as a citizenship question, in the general Irish board?
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Geraldine,
Have you got any official information about your quest. There is some here
https://www.dfa.ie/citizenship/
There is a Customer Service Hub - scroll down for contact details.
Heywood
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Thanks for the info heywood, I'll make a note of the 'hub, that you refer to. Geraldine96
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Thanks to Lisjb and wexflyer, I have managed to get a much clearer idea re the application process for citizenship. The 3 generations includes myself: the applicant, my father and my Irish grandmother - it's just as well that I turned to rootschat for help.
I can use the Ferns parish link to get baptismal records for my distant family this will help my ongoing Irish research. It's all much clearer, thanks, Geraldine96
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No problem. My husband is thinking about obtaining Irish citizenship through his Irish born grandmother, but as his family aren't exactly known for regularising their relationships, and changing names without any documentation, it may be difficult!