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Title: Please decipher
Post by: artlover123 on Wednesday 03 February 21 17:11 GMT (UK)
Dear Friends,

Please turn your august eyes to the handwriting on this label verso to a - I believe to be Spanish - portrait!

Best wishes,

Joshua
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Viktoria on Wednesday 03 February 21 21:36 GMT (UK)
Mr Duffin?
There seems to be an e after the n, and Mr is a guess.
Does any of that little bit run any bells?
Viktoria.
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: artlover123 on Thursday 04 February 21 15:31 GMT (UK)
Hmm, thanks Victoria but no bells I'm afraid. Nothing is known about it, never a tremendous help. Here's the gentleman.

Best,

Joshua
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Karen McDonald on Thursday 04 February 21 17:03 GMT (UK)
I'm wondering if it's Lord Somethingorother, with the top of the "d" squidged by the wrinkles in the paper.  ???

But Lord what..?
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Karen McDonald on Thursday 04 February 21 17:09 GMT (UK)
I found a Lord Dufferin, but a couple of hundred years too young...  ::)
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Viktoria on Thursday 04 February 21 17:40 GMT (UK)
Looking at it again, could they last word be Duffrin ?
There is Irish Peerage,Duffrin and Ava.

He is handsome .

Viktoria.


Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 04 February 21 19:07 GMT (UK)
Anything to do with this family perhaps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorcas_Blackwood,_1st_Baroness_Dufferin_and_Claneboye
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Viktoria on Thursday 04 February 21 22:08 GMT (UK)
I'm wondering if it's Lord Somethingorother, with the top of the "d" squidged by the wrinkles in the paper.  ???

But Lord what..?

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I think he is an oriental gentleman!
Lord No Soo. ::)
With apologies to Charles Dickens and Martin Chuzzlewit !
Victoria.
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Manitoba2021 on Friday 05 February 21 11:16 GMT (UK)
It appears at my first glance to be two words...No reason to capitalize the D unless a new word. 

First word/name could also be abbreviated  ?au Day/Dey and I get the impression that it may be more Dutch than Spanish. 

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Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Viktoria on Saturday 06 February 21 21:52 GMT (UK)
I think it says Lord Duffrin.
What I took to be an X is the L of Lord.Viktoria.
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: artlover123 on Monday 08 February 21 11:41 GMT (UK)
How confounding! Thanks for your help :)

Best,

Joshua
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: Karen McDonald on Monday 08 February 21 12:16 GMT (UK)
This one is bugging me.  ;D

If I google Dufferin, lots of things appear concerning this chappy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Hamilton-Temple-Blackwood,_1st_Marquess_of_Dufferin_and_Ava

And if I google further, certain pictures keep popping up, including this one:

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/nachrichtenfoto/sir-william-temple-17th-century-english-statesman-and-nachrichtenfoto/463996221?adppopup=true

Now is this simply because he was also a Temple? Or does he indeed have something to do with the Freddy shown above?

I'm not saying he is the man in the painting, but I don't understand why google keeps sending me in circles with the pair of them...  ???

P.S. What sort of time are we talking about for the man in the painting? Mid-to-late 17th century?
Title: Re: Please decipher
Post by: artlover123 on Monday 08 February 21 12:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Karen,

One can't get them all is the sad truth! Seventeenth century yes, and looks Spanish from the costume and physiognomy. However, your chap at the Getty though English could be read into it. But then times were different!

This one is proving to be tricky and without anymore information might remain a mystery.

Best wishes,

Joshua