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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wicklow => Topic started by: Seattle on Sunday 28 August 05 01:19 BST (UK)
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Hello to all,
I've just learned from the Catholic parish register in Dukinfield, Cheshire, that my gr gr grandmother, Ann Rogan was born in Killarena, County Wicklow. I've spent quite a long time trying to locate it on a map. Unfortunately, I don't know if it's a village, parish or.....? It's also possible that an English census taker didn't understand the pronunciation correctly! Could it possibly be Killarny, do you think? Any opinions or advise would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Seattle
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Seattle,
That " a " at the end of the word makes me think the place may be Kilranelagh. Have you looked at www.thecore.com/seanruad The Irish Atlas Townland Database ?
Christopher
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Seattle:
I have been looking around and agree with Christopher. Kilranelagh looks like your best bet. Here is a little item about graveyard there. http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/wicklow/kilranalagh/kilranalagh.htm
From Lewis Topographical Dictionary, 1837:
KILRANELAGH, a parish, in the barony of UPPER TALBOTSTOWN, county of WICKLOW, and province of LEINSTER, 3 1/2 miles (E.) from Baltinglass, on the road from Dublin to Hacketstown; containing 1831 inhabitants. It comprises 4293 statute acres, as applotted under the tithe act, of which 1053 are mountain land, including Cadeen, which is 2155 feet high, and Kilranelagh hill, which rises to the height of 1289 feet: the land is chiefly in pasture. In the demesne of Kilranelagh is found porcelain clay, consisting of decomposed felspar, equal in purity to the Cornish china clay: granite and slate are abundant, and large masses of hornblende and a sort of greenstone frequently occur. There is a constabulary police station near Fort Granite. The principal seats are Kilranelagh, the residence of F. W. Greene, Esq., which is in a well-planted demesne of 200 statute acres; Ballynrowan, of G. Cummin, Esq.; Fort Granite, of T. S. Dennis, Esq.; and Barraderry, of Vaughan Pendred, Esq. It is a rectory and vicarage, in the diocese of Leighlin, forming part of the union of Kiltegan: the tithes amount to £193. 16. 11. In the R. C. divisions it is part of the union or district of Rathvilly, and has a chapel at Englishtown, where also are national schools for boys and girls. In the demesne of Fort Granite is a handsome school-house, with apartments for a master and mistress, built and supported entirely by the proprietor and his family, in which more than 80 boys and girls receive a strictly religious education; there is also an infants' school and dwelling-house for the mistress, at which between 20 and 30 children daily attend; and a Sunday school, held in the school-house, is numerously attended both by children and adults. A kistvaen was discovered some years since on the estate of Mr. Greene, in which was an urn containing bones, now in the museum of Trinity College, Dublin. At Talbotstown, the property of W. Kirkpatrick, Esq., are the remains of a square fort with a large fosse, which must formerly have been of consequence, as it gave name to the barony; and there is a large old burial-ground.
And here is a site with map and other info. Looks beautiful!!!
http://www.kilranelagh.com/surrounding.html
Good luck,
Pat
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Hi Christopher and Pat,
Thanks so much for giving me a good clue. It's a bit of a mystery! I was so excited when I found the details, but now it's back to frustration!! But, that's what it's all about, right?
Seattle
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Pat that was a great post by you. Seattle do not get too frustrated, keep going, if thing look difficult most of the people on the Irish boards are only too keen to help you with your search.
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Thanks for the encouragement, Christopher! I won't give up, I promise. I'm much too stubborn for that! I've been doing Google searches to learn a little about Wicklow. I've always thought that my Ann Rogan came from Dublin (on the 1881 Census), so this is a completely new avenue to check out.
Thanks again,
Seattle
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Hi Seattle,
I too have ancestors coming from a nearbye area of Baltinglass. I made several journeys both to Dublin and Baltinglass to search for them checking through all of the parish registers, but to no avail. The one likely register had white pages as the ink had completely disappeared for the appropriate years. I did discover that the next parish to the north was in the Co. Dublin area so it's quite possible that Ann Rogan did come from Co. Dublin.
Sorry I can't be of greater help to you
Brian
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In Ian Cantwell's database of Co Wicklow cemetary records, the only Rogan burials seem to be in Arklow "new" graveyard and in Kilbride "old" graveyard. But perhaps all this has been sorted for you long ago!
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Hi 27,
No, not sorted yet! Did you see any Hugh or Isabella Rogans in the records you mentioned?
Thanks,
Seattle