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Title: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: Flowery on Saturday 23 January 21 08:48 GMT (UK)
I have someone born in 1929 at  76 McDonald St. Napier.
Was there an unmarried mothers home there.

They were adopted so wondered  if it was a private house or for unmarried mothers


THANKS    Gay

Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 23 January 21 09:28 GMT (UK)
I wonder if?

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/DTN18920617.2.11?items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=Macdonald+street&snippet=true&title=BA%2cDTN%2cHAST%2cHBH%2cHBT%2cHBWT%2cWAIPM
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: Flowery on Saturday 23 January 21 09:49 GMT (UK)
Doesn't sound very nice place?? 
Would the 1931 Electoral Roll be able to help




Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 23 January 21 10:01 GMT (UK)
The 1928 roll is on ancestry and the first page I picked had 72 Macdonald street. But sadly the roll is  not sorted by streets.

Who was the informant. Might that be a name we could look up. To save paging through,
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: Flowery on Saturday 23 January 21 19:12 GMT (UK)
The person has this address on their Birth Certificate so have no idea who would have lived there. Trying to think of a way to work out if it was a private house or unwed mothers as he was adopted.
The only name it could be is Limbrick but not sure.
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 23 January 21 20:08 GMT (UK)
1928 supplemental roll for Napier has at 76 Macdonald

Jack Johnstone Paterson, an engineer.

there are not any other Patersons at that address.
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: TwiggyTree on Saturday 23 January 21 21:02 GMT (UK)
Might the Wises Postal Directory microfiche be helpful to confirm owner or occupants too?

The Napier City Council may also have property records; but I am thinking that the library may be another historic source instead to either confirm address of Home for Destitute Children, or any information about the address you do have.

Sent a PM.
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 23 January 21 21:20 GMT (UK)
Might the Wises Postal Directory microfiche be helpful to confirm owner or occupants too?


The first sighting I can see for the NZ City & Area Directories for a Jack J Paterson is in 1947 for Napier.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: TwiggyTree on Saturday 23 January 21 21:41 GMT (UK)
As an aside (ie not all maternity homes), there is a book about Children's Homes in the Hawkes Bay that I stumbled upon called "Who Cared?" : https://www.rootschat.com/links/01q8l/
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 23 January 21 21:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Gay

I've used a slightly different approach to that of McKha  ;D ... and the info I've gathered comes from a variety of sources.

*  Just remember though that the electoral rolls and directories do NOT always give an accurate view of where people were residing on a given date  ....  nor do they give details of every person residing at a particular address.

The 1928 Electoral roll for Napier shows (main roll) >

NORMAN - Stanley - 76 McDonald* Street - carpenter
      [and as well - as per Mckha's earlier post - Jack Johnstone PATERSON, engineer - on Napier Supplementary roll - at 76 McDonald Street ]
[[Note :  Stanley NORMAN's family were long-time residents of streets nearby to McDonald Street and it seems he was only at No. 76 for a short time before he moved to another street in same locality.   Maybe the PATERSON chap was a lodger at the address ?? ]]

In the 1930 NZPO Directory - POWELL, Hnry* S. - storeman is at 76 McDonald Street
[[ Note:   Mr POWELL's forenames are actually Harry Sydney and he is at # 76 until the time of his death in 1940. ]]

1931 - Napier e/roll


POWELL - Harry S. - 76 McDonald Street - storeman
POWELL - Mary Ann - married


[1931 - Jack Johnston PATERSON is still on roll at 76 McDonald Street ??? ]

POWELL - Mary Ann at same address in 1943 (following Harry's death) ... also 1943 at # 76 are Harry's son and daughter-in-law (who later move to Kennedy Road.)

Now ... given all that guff  ;D  ... the only reason I've mentioned these people is that in the
1933 NZPO Directory (Wise's),  there is this listing (I think may be, of some interest ?)

POWELL - Hnry. S. - 76 McDonald Street - storeman
POWELL - Mrs. M.A. - 76 McDonald Street - Mtrnty home  ... (Mtrnty I'm fairly sure is the abbreviation for "Maternity" ?? )

SO,  the question is, was Mrs M. A. POWELL (Harry's wife Mary Ann) offering "maternity / or nursing services" from # 76 McDonald Street, during 1929  ??

     ~  Lu

Edits :  to clarify information
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: TwiggyTree on Saturday 23 January 21 21:57 GMT (UK)
Here is a list of private maternity homes, but it doesn't list any in McDonald St, Napier (it looks well worth bookmarking though):

https://sites.google.com/site/nzprivatematernityhomes/home/hawkes-bay


Following Lucy2's post and further confirmation perhaps drop the above website curator a note so that she can update her database?
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 23 January 21 21:59 GMT (UK)
The person has this address on their Birth Certificate so have no idea who would have lived there.

Hi Gay

*  Does this birth certificate give the name of the "informant to the birth" ??

    ~  Lu

Edit = spelling correction.
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: TwiggyTree on Saturday 23 January 21 22:02 GMT (UK)
Lucy2 I think this confirms it https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/horowhenua-chronicle/1939/05/13/3  See Column 2: Napier
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 23 January 21 22:31 GMT (UK)
Congratulations you two!
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 23 January 21 22:32 GMT (UK)
Ooh yes !!!     

Well done Twiggy ... a great find  :)  (and an excellent resource to have, too).

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Address where born - Napier NZ
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 23 January 21 22:37 GMT (UK)
Cheers Mckha ...  but you also did a good deal of sleuthing too !!    ;)

Meant to add earlier ... street name was either spelled "MacDonald"  or  "McDonald" in various publications.

If it's of interest Gay, you can find the house using Street View at Google -- sp. "McDonald" St.

    ~  Lu