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Title: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Maggiemck on Tuesday 12 January 21 10:52 GMT (UK)
Hi, wonder if anyone can shed a bit of light on this. After not being able to find my grandmother on the 1911 Census, I finally found her in Calton in Glasgow (she was born in Greenock) in what I think was a poorhouse. But when I look for the poorhouse in Calton I find there was a poorhouse on Clyde St but that seems to have been demolished prior to 1911. Does anyone know if there was a poorhouse in Calton and have any more info on that. thanks
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:03 GMT (UK)
It wouldn't be a poor house as such but maybe a lodging house for women
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:03 GMT (UK)
What was the address in Calton?
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Maggiemck on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:12 GMT (UK)
hi, thanks for your reply. Can't find an address on there.  It is certainly an institution of some kind as it says so on front page. There are a number of girls there and they are referred to as Inmate/Scholar. They were from different places but mostly Glasgow. She wasn't with her parents who are registered on the census as living at an address in Greenock. She is 11 years old at time of census.
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:15 GMT (UK)
Salvation Army Home,

https://www.canmore.org.uk/site/140949/glasgow-14-clyde-street-salvation-army-metropole-for-women

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Maggiemck on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Skoosh. Is it the kind of place that a family would send a child on their own. Not really understanding why she is there and her family aren't thanks.
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:21 GMT (UK)
There was a children's home/orphanage at Abercromby Street, Calton
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:26 GMT (UK)
Also

http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/GlasgowGreenStreetID/
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Maggiemck on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that will have a look at it.
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Maggiemck on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:36 GMT (UK)
Sancti I have had a look thanks for the link. It says it's a day industrial school but I think that obviously she would have been residing there. Can't see that she'd be travelling from Greenock to Glasgow of a day really. Do you think that children boarded there too? thanks
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:41 GMT (UK)
You would really need the name of the institution from the census record

What does the front page say?
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 January 21 11:43 GMT (UK)
Understanding the content in census records
Each search result includes a . link. This opens a digital image of the relevant page in the enumeration book. You have options to 'browse forwards', 'browse backwards' and 'view header (free)'. The header contains digital images of the preliminary section of the enumeration book including the title page, description of the enumeration district and summary statistics compiled by the enumerator. They are free to view.
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Maggiemck on Tuesday 12 January 21 12:28 GMT (UK)
So it says on the header County of Lanark reg district of Calton Enumeration Book for the Undernamed Institution and there's no name. When you flick onto the next header page it says To the Chief officer or person in charge of every prison poorhouse asylum charitable organisation or other public institution but it doesn't name it specifically. You'd think it should wouldn't you.
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Rena on Tuesday 12 January 21 13:22 GMT (UK)
To discover why your ancestor was in the institution you'd have to look at the actual institutional records. She might have been in the institution for a few years. It might say mother/father ail or out of work and can't feed their child, or they can't control the child. 

I have something similar in my English branch.  My widowed gt. grandfathermarried a widow.  She had her two youngest children living with her but she'd put her three older cvhildren in the local children's home where they'd get free bed and board plus free and free clothes education and training for employment.  In the event of their marriage my gt. grandfather took them out of the home to live with the full family.   Voincidentally they were members of the Salvation Army and my grandmother was a tambourine girl.

Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Maggiemck on Tuesday 12 January 21 13:26 GMT (UK)
OK so managed to find the institution. Just noticed a link to open the page in a different viewer. It was a Catholic girls orphanage in Gallowgate. Not quite sure how she came to be there if her mother was still alive. But at least I know part of her story. Thanks for help on this.
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 January 21 13:38 GMT (UK)
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/GlasgowStMaryGirlsIS/
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 12 January 21 13:45 GMT (UK)
Maybe records have survived regarding her admission

https://www.catholic-heritage.net/
Title: Re: Poorhouse Calton Glasgow
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 14 July 22 10:53 BST (UK)
Anent The Calton, The Scottish Genealogist mag' in the current issue, has part III of "Reminiscences of Calton!" which originally were published in the Scottish Canadian in 1893.
 These wee tales of the families of the handloom weaving folk, a dying breed then, are excellent, possibly available from The Scottish Genealogy Society,  www.scotsgenealogy.com

Bests,
Skoosh.