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Title: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: Ebova on Saturday 09 January 21 03:12 GMT (UK)
Not off-topic for me, as I am probably a blood relative, but I could find it on Trove by myself. They used the surname Forlonge, as do several living male-line descendants in Australia and elsewhere. I want to know whether Andrew left descendants.


TOT thread -
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=678681.54
Reply #57 & #58.
Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: Erato on Saturday 09 January 21 03:47 GMT (UK)
Hi, Ebova, and welcome to RootsChat.  You have posted to a very old and very inconsequential thread.  This is where we post interesting, odd or sometimes beautiful photographs that have little or nothing to do with genealogy or family history.  A moderator will probably show up to move your message to another location where it will get the attention it deserves.  In the meantime, though, enjoy the photos or maybe post one of your own.
Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: Ebova on Saturday 09 January 21 04:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Erato, for the pointers. The thread "path" -  RootsChat.Com »
General »
The Common Room »
Totally Off Topic Bit » -
didn't suggest to me that the thread was primarily for pictures. I was responding to the text, which was definitely about genealogy and contained a misspelled surname. If my message is moved without the text it was responding to, it may be confusing for readers.

Kind regards
Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: Erato on Saturday 09 January 21 04:51 GMT (UK)
Well, I take it that you are interested in the surname Forlonge in Australia.  I know nothing about Forlonges or Australia.  What you could do, though, is rewrite your message and post it on the Australia board.  Include the surname in the title so that people will take note and you could include a link to this thread if you think that would be useful.

To get to the Australia board, click on 'Forum' at the top of this page and then go down about 3/5 of the way and you'll see Australia.  Click there and then click on new topic and write your message.  There are plenty of Australians about so you should get a fast reply.


Topic split off and moved to Australia , link added to TOT board.
Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: matthewj64 on Saturday 09 January 21 18:21 GMT (UK)
Article about the Furlonge family referred to in the older thread.
1937 'PIONEERING OUR SHEEP INDUSTRY', Chronicle (Adelaide, SA : 1895 - 1954), http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article92468353

Cargo and passenger list of the brig Czar, arrived at Launceston, Tasmania 1831, including Furlong family and 130 sheep.
1831 'SHIP NEWS.', Launceston Advertiser (Tas. : 1829 - 1846), 24 January, p. 27. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article84778105

Andrew Furlong's age on arrival recorded as 11y.
https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/422050

M

ADD: Kenilworth estate near Campbell Town, Tasmania offered for sale by William Forlonge in 1837.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4169497
Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: majm on Saturday 09 January 21 20:30 GMT (UK)
Not off-topic for me, as I am probably a blood relative, but I could find it on Trove by myself. They used the surname Forlonge, as do several living male-line descendants in Australia and elsewhere. I want to know whether Andrew left descendants.


TOT thread -
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=678681.54
Reply #57 & #58.

You ask if Andrew left descendants ...

May I ask if your research shows he died in Dubbo NSW or alternatively if he died in the USA ... I have noticed both possibilities ....

If he died in Dubbo NSW,  then may I ask for the likely year, or at least the decade,  so I can go through some offline resources to help locate his death registration.  NSW BDM death certs provide for recording details of any marriages, and names/ages of children of the marriage/s.

JM

Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 10 January 21 01:23 GMT (UK)
Appears this couple were childless... would need to confirm or eliminate.
May be of interest
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forlong-28

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=2624260

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTTN-N5Q
Name: Andrew Furlong
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Aug 1845
Event Place: Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Spouse's Name: Jane Lightbody or Wardrop

Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge, Scotland to Australia then America.
Post by: Ebova on Sunday 10 January 21 03:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for making an effort. I told Erato that posting my message elsewhere without the posting it was responding to would confuse. It has confused. The newspaper article attached to the original posting - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/92468353 -  clearly stated that Andrew went to America. Maybe he returned later to Australia but I've not seen any hint of that. I'm almost certain he was not buried at Dubbo or near Euroa where there is a museum devoted to his mother. And there's no sign of him in the 1881 US census - https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=andrew&q.surname=forlonge&f.collectionId=1417683&count=100&offset=0&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on - although various sites say he died in 1897. Maybe he went somewhere else, perhaps Argentina, where there have been a number of Forlongs recorded. I don't know how to translate this to a USA forum, but if one of you experts can do it I'll be able to pursue it there.
Well, I take it that you are interested in the surname Forlonge in Australia.  I know nothing about Forlonges or Australia.  What you could do, though, is rewrite your message and post it on the Australia board.  Include the surname in the title so that people will take note and you could include a link to this thread if you think that would be useful.

To get to the Australia board, click on 'Forum' at the top of this page and then go down about 3/5 of the way and you'll see Australia.  Click there and then click on new topic and write your message.  There are plenty of Australians about so you should get a fast reply.


Topic split off and moved to Australia , link added to TOT board.
Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: majm on Sunday 10 January 21 04:08 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I think Erato's suggestion was fine, nothing confusing, fairly standard practice to split a thread and put part of it on a main board, especially as it was on a thread devoted to sharing photos of sights .... :)

So you are interested in Andrew FORLONGE .... and you have found various newspaper cuttings about him and his family via Trove.

I noticed  several had mentioned he went to America,  but nothing further.  I wondered about that "America"  it would be in the era before the gold rushes, before California was in the United States ... was it perhaps referring to Chile or Peru or South America in general .... afterall Andrew was well versed in animal husbandry... sheep breeding in particular .... or Canada ... so not just USA ....

Then I read Cup of Life's post... and the link  Cup found for you, it shows that submitter to that family history website has  taken  Andrew back to Britain ... a marriage, apparently childless...
Appears this couple were childless... would need to confirm or eliminate.
May be of interest
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forlong-28

https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=&thread=2624260

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTTN-N5Q
Name: Andrew Furlong
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Aug 1845
Event Place: Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Spouse's Name: Jane Lightbody or Wardrop



JM
Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: Ebova on Sunday 10 January 21 10:48 GMT (UK)
More food for thought. Thank you for the additional work, folks. I guess a printed book could be a more reliable source than a newspaper article covering historical events. Surname on the tombstone doesn't quite match, but that could be overlooked because spellings were a bit fluid even as late as the 19th century. Stated age on the tombstone doesn't match any of the four actual or estimated birth yeas I have seen for him, but the latest one gets close. I will see whether Sir Nicholas Mander has real sources. I won't post on the USA forum but I may try a few more US censuses.
Title: Re: Andrew Forlonge.
Post by: Erato on Sunday 10 January 21 15:03 GMT (UK)
"I told Erato that posting my message elsewhere without the posting it was responding to would confuse."

Sorry, I was only trying to help.  If your post had stayed on a six-year-old, off-topic photo thread, few would ever have seen it.