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Title: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: condesa on Saturday 19 December 20 20:23 GMT (UK)
Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy were married in the Roman Catholic Church of The Immaculate Conception, Dukestown, Tredegar on 18 December 1866.  I have been told that at Roman Catholic church weddings in Wales the mother's name was recorded in the parish records as well as the father's.  Is it possible for a look up to find out their mothers' names.

Thanks,
Susan
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: Pejic on Saturday 19 December 20 20:56 GMT (UK)
I don't know if this is new or useful, but I have a note in my Murphy notes:
"Michael Coffee was born in Ireland about 1841-1843.  His father was Cornelius Coffee. 
On 22 December 1866 he married Honora Murphy in Crickhowell. 

0n 4 August 1876, 34 year old Michael Coffee was found drowned in the Monmouthshire Canal and an inquest was held in Llangibby, Pontypool."

No source noted I'm sorry. 
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 19 December 20 21:08 GMT (UK)
1851, Honora, possibly: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGT5-7T5

1861, Michael: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M71X-22P

1861, Honora: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7B4-GDK

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V55C-GX8

Jamjar
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 21:13 GMT (UK)
Earlier thread

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=841588.0

Susan, have you try the archives as  suggested on your other thread?  The archives is probably closed at the moment but there might be a limited service by email.

On there I said that sometimes the mother’s name is shown on the church records, not always.
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 19 December 20 21:52 GMT (UK)
Gwent Family History Society have produced a CD-ROM thingy
Tredegar Roman Catholic Church (of the Immaculate Conception)
Baptisms 1852-1915, Marriages 1857-1916 (in Latin & English)

I'm not promoting it, just mentioning it! Don't know how complete the transcriptions may be.
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 21:57 GMT (UK)
That would be useful
https://gwentfhs.org.uk/   mentions queries by email
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 20 December 20 10:13 GMT (UK)
Possible Female** Birth Reg GRO;

MURPHY, HONOVAN  mothers maiden name DIGEN*** 
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in ABERGAVENNY  Volume 26  Page 33

Abergavenny is the reg district on the 1851 Census posted by Jamjar

Trish :)
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: condesa on Sunday 20 December 20 20:26 GMT (UK)
I have seen that birth entry.  However, according to the 1851 census Honora had a younger sister Margaret and I haven't been able to find an entry in the GRO for her birth with mother's name DIGEN, although there is a DUGGAN in Abergavenny in 1849.
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: condesa on Sunday 20 December 20 20:31 GMT (UK)
Going back to the 1851 census, there is a Timothy and Briget Duggar living with the Murphy's.  This could have been mis-transcribed and should be Duggan.  In which, case they could be relatives of Honora's mother Mary.
Title: Re: Michael Coffee and Honora Murphy marriage 1866 Dukestown
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 21 December 20 11:41 GMT (UK)
That makes sense Duggan/Digen could be misheaad by the person registering the birth.