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Title: Anyone have any information on the Meehan and Fitzgeralds in Limerick?
Post by: ellimarie on Saturday 19 December 20 19:05 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I'm currently researching my paternal Irish ancestry and I have hit a bit of a dead end with my great grandmother Mary. She was born in Dromkeen in 1927/28, and was brought over to England by her Uncle when she was 7. Her mothers maiden name was Fitzgerald and there have been stories in my family that it's the same Fitzgerald family as JFK, although I don't know how true this is.

As far as I know both of her brothers died in World War 2 and her 2 sisters came with her to England. Her sisters were called Margaret and Christina/Christine. I also believe her father was John, but again I'm not certain.

She married my great grandfather Alfred Day in 1951 in greenwich, London and subsequently became Mary Day.

If any other information is needed please let me know. :)
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 19:33 GMT (UK)
Hello ellimarie,
Are we looking for a Meehan/Fitzgerald marriage and then back from there?

Heywood
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: ellimarie on Saturday 19 December 20 19:39 GMT (UK)
Hello ellimarie,
Are we looking for a Meehan/Fitzgerald marriage and then back from there?

Heywood

We are indeed, I would assume it would be before her brothers were born which would be pre-1920.
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 19:56 GMT (UK)
What was her uncle’s name?
Where were they living in England?
Her marriage certificate would confirm her father’s name?
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 19 December 20 20:04 GMT (UK)
We are indeed, I would assume it would be before her brothers were born which would be pre-1920.

What were the names of her brothers born pre-1920? Was one James?

KG
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 20:10 GMT (UK)
There is this birth for Mary Meehan  :-\
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F13H-DXY
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 20:16 GMT (UK)
This is the birth for James Meehan that KG is probably referring to:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01228/1511088.pdf
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 19 December 20 20:19 GMT (UK)
This is the birth for James Meehan that KG is probably referring to:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01228/1511088.pdf

Indeed I was, heywood  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: ellimarie on Saturday 19 December 20 20:20 GMT (UK)
I'm 90% sure that she had a brother called John, although James is also a good shout but I'll have to ask my Grandmother to be sure. :)
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 20:23 GMT (UK)
Death of Josie Meehan - fits with KG’s find

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1934/04845/4306919.pdf
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 19 December 20 20:26 GMT (UK)
Marriage of Michael Meehan, widower, Dromkeen - 1935
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1935/08953/5240689.pdf
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: ellimarie on Saturday 19 December 20 23:37 GMT (UK)
More information that I have just received about her brothers, they were called Patrick, Jimmy (possible James) and Michael
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Sunday 20 December 20 06:36 GMT (UK)
What do you think of the information found already?

Irish births are only online to 1919.

You can search the indexes here for the other children https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

If they moved to England before 1939, you might find them in the 1939 register on Ancestry or FindmyPast.
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: ellimarie on Sunday 20 December 20 14:32 GMT (UK)
All information so far seems correct when put up against what I already know. I will have a look at the 1939 register :)
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: merrick7 on Tuesday 22 December 20 23:59 GMT (UK)
James Meehan son of Daniel from Nicker Pallasgreen married Mary Mulcahy daughter of Patrick same address on 3rd Feb. 1874 in Templebraden R.C.
They had the following children
Daniel 1875 in Nicker
John 1876 in Nicker
Patrick 1879 in Nicker
Margaret 1882 in Nicker
James 1883 in Nicker
Bridget 1886 in Nicker
Thomas 1888 in Corelish
Michael 17th August 1890 in Corelish
Mary 1892 also Corelish
Here they are in the 1901 census
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Grean/Corelish__West/1514950/
Here is Michael in 1911
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Caherconlish_East/Drombane/623399/
Patrick's headstone
https://historicgraves.com/old-pallas/li-opls-313/grave
https://historicgraves.com/old-pallas/li-opls-314/grave

Hope this helps
PJ
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 23 December 20 00:49 GMT (UK)
Here is the marriage of Michael Meehan and Johanna Fitzgerald
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09721/5527468.pdf

Could this be a brother to your Mary?
CWGC - Private Michael Meehan
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2323419/MICHAEL%20MEEHAN/
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: ellimarie on Wednesday 23 December 20 01:01 GMT (UK)
Here is the marriage of Michael Meehan and Johanna Fitzgerald
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09721/5527468.pdf

Could this be a brother to your Mary?
CWGC - Private Michael Meehan
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2323419/MICHAEL%20MEEHAN/

My grandmother has said that Mary did have a brother Michael who died sometime during D day.

She also mentioned that Mary’s brother Jimmy (James?) was a radio officer in the Navy and her other brother David was killed in Italy.
 
If Michael and Joannah had sons with those names then I think these are the right people.  :)
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 23 December 20 07:54 GMT (UK)
Here is David
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2071474/DAVID%20MEEHAN/

So it looks to be the right family.
If you don’t have the marriage certificate to Alfred, that would confirm Mary’s father’s name.

You can order a research copy of Mary’s birth certificate for 4 euros
https://www2.hse.ie/services/births-deaths-and-marriages/get-certificates/ordering-certificates.html

PJ has posted the family details for Michael and I posted Michael and Johanna’s marriage details - her father, David.
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 23 December 20 09:30 GMT (UK)
James Meehan son of Daniel from Nicker Pallasgreen married Mary Mulcahy daughter of Patrick same address on 3rd Feb. 1874 in Templebraden R.C.

Nicker Townland, Grean Civil Parish, Co. Limerick.
https://www.townlands.ie/limerick/coonagh/grean/grean/nicker/

KG

Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 23 December 20 10:01 GMT (UK)

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Mary 1892 also Corelish

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02325/1870628.pdf

Corelish West (& East) townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/limerick/clanwilliam/grean/grean/corelish-west/

Situated about 2 miles west of Pallasgreen.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5991685#map=14/52.5713/-8.3483

KG
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the MEEHAN and FITZGERALDS in Limerick?
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 23 December 20 15:57 GMT (UK)
1871 David Fitzgerald son of James and Johanna Flynn
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03291/2206154.pdf

the parents 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Kilmurry/Deerpark/1495240/

birth of grandaughter Bridget 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02298/1862248.pdf

David married Margaret Collins in 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10709/5904466.pdf

missing from 1901 census though his wife and some of his children are there
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Kilmurry/Gortnadromin/1495217/

Johanna's birth 1895
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02210/1834775.pdf

missing 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Kilmurry/Deerpark/623929/
Title: Re: Anyone have any information on the Meehan and Fitzgeralds in Limerick?
Post by: merrick7 on Wednesday 23 December 20 21:34 GMT (UK)
Mary Mulcahy was baptized to Patrick and Bridget Treacy on 12th August 1855 in Corelish.
She had at least 9 other siblings.

P.J.