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Title: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: Jesper on Tuesday 15 December 20 11:53 GMT (UK)
I am at a loose end again...I know that my great grandfather was Samuel Burrows born Woodbridge/Sibton around 1831.His parents were James (Jas) Wolton Burrows and Matilda nee Woolnough
I have their marriage as 1824 - their first son was James 1825 Woodbridge St.Mary - then Samuel (1826-1828) - then Richard - b.Sibton -1827 - then Joshua b.Sibton 1831
I have an 1841 census listing at Friest Farm ,Dallinghoo which has Matilda , James 16 ,Samuel 14, Richard ,12 & Joshua 10
1851 has Samuel at Burgh (born Sibton and aged 19)
I have his listings from 1861 & 1871 (in Wales and married to Sarah) 1881 and 1891
All the listings mention Woodbridge so he's the man but I cannot nail down a birth record for him
around that time..I have tried FindMyPast ,Family search and Ancestry but to no avail - mention of the infant and death but not of an 1831 or 1832 arrival
Thanks for any help..
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 15 December 20 11:57 GMT (UK)
You'll find a baptism at best, no birth records in 1831ish
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 December 20 12:10 GMT (UK)
It is on FindMyPast
Samuel Burrows
Mother Matilda (late Woolnough)
Father James
Baptism date   06 Oct 1826
Parish   St Mary, Woodbridge
Father's occupation   Farmer

ADDED Your heading says born c1831 but your text -

their first son was James 1825 Woodbridge St.Mary - then Samuel (1826-1828) - then Richard - b.Sibton -1827 - then Joshua b.Sibton 1831
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: Jesper on Tuesday 15 December 20 12:21 GMT (UK)
Rosie,Thank you but I'm aware of that birth,he died in infancy 1828 ,it's his older brother,also Samuel born around 1831 that I can't locate...he's at Friest farm in 1841 but how did he get there??!!
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 December 20 12:56 GMT (UK)
1841 census has
James 16
Samuel 14
Richard 12
Joshua 10

their first son was James 1825 Woodbridge St.Mary - then Samuel (1826-1828) - then Richard - b.Sibton -1827 - then Joshua b.Sibton 1831


Where was the burial for the one that died in infancy
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 15 December 20 13:10 GMT (UK)
Sarah would have given the information in 1841.  She gave birth to the children so you would assume that she knew the order of birth and she has Samuel born between James and Richard.

Samuel has no idea how old he was.  1851 (19), 1861 (32), 1871 (46), 1881 (50), 1891 (56).

How is the parish burial worded in 1828?

Debra  :D
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: Jesper on Tuesday 15 December 20 13:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Debra..see C & P from Ancestry below..
Name:   Samuel Burrows
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   6 Oct 1826
Baptism Place:   Saint Mary,Woodbridge,Suffolk,England
Death Date:   1 Mar 1828
Father:   James Burrows
Mother:   Matilda Woolnough
FHL Film Number:   919636, 919637
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 15 December 20 13:34 GMT (UK)
I can see the transcription, but I wouldn't trust Ancestry as far as I can spit. ::)

Debra  :D
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: groom on Tuesday 15 December 20 13:36 GMT (UK)
Bit of an aside here. Jesper, do you have a Sarah Burrows in your tree born abt 1793 • Woodbridge Suffolk? Father John 1771 - 1857 born and died Woodbridge?
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 15 December 20 14:43 GMT (UK)
According to Suffolk baptism index which was produced by SFHS
Richard was baptised 11 Sep 1829 - Woodbridge
Joshua baptised 18 May 1832 - Woodbridge
Abode Woodbridge for both.

Familysearch has Joshua baptised 23 Apr 1831 at Sibton

Those transcripts look suspect to me I would want to see the parish registers.  The transcript showing the death on familysearch is linked to a tree on the site
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: Jesper on Tuesday 15 December 20 15:32 GMT (UK)
groom,no,sorry ...no John or Sarah

Regards
Chris
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: Jesper on Wednesday 16 December 20 08:55 GMT (UK)
I'm inclined now to disregard the death record as the numbers add up to Samuel being born 1826
I can't access Parish records at the moment so I'll carry on regardless!Thanks anyway for your sage remarks..
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 16 December 20 11:23 GMT (UK)
I have just found this on the National burial index  ;D

Samuel Burrows Flaxman
Age   0
Burial date   01 Mar 1828
Church   St Mary, Woodbridge
Denomination   Anglican

Samuel Burrows Flaxman
Baptism 25 Jun 1827
St Mary, Woodbridge
Mother Catherine
Father Thomas
Father's occupation   Servant
Residence   Woodbridge
Notes - late BURROWS
Title: Re: Missing birth record Samuel Burrows Woodbridge around 1831
Post by: gobbitt on Wednesday 16 December 20 13:25 GMT (UK)
Jesper

The attached pedigree may be new to you. It was typed by Alan Burrows, a great-grandson of Samuel's uncle David (1802-1895), in 1999, shortly before his death.

Sadly, Alan's notes give no details of John or Sarah for groom (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=841568.msg7078915#msg7078915).

David