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Title: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: Chester Mazing on Monday 30 November 20 20:52 GMT (UK)
 Hi Guys have just spent 6 months following the Mary Stoke tree line to Warwickshire just to find it's the wrong one DOH!!. So lets start again... am trying to find as much info on Mary Stokes
 B,1880-D,1952 age 70.
 Father William Stokes. spouse, Henry Manley B,1881-D,1972 age 91. Had a Caravan on the Golden Sq Stockland Honiton Devon app 1911 with a family of 6. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks. Stay safe.
Chez.
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 30 November 20 21:37 GMT (UK)
Where was your Mary born please?

Do you have her on census with father William and what was his occupation?
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 30 November 20 21:40 GMT (UK)
Is this the marriage

30 Nov 1897 Long Sutton Somerset

Bride and groom both 19 so born c1878
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 30 November 20 21:46 GMT (UK)
5 children before 1911

Mary Matilda born 1899
Mary Ann born 1902
Henry born 1905
Caroline born 1907
Lenard born 1910
Title: Re: Henry Manley & Mary Stokes
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 November 20 21:49 GMT (UK)
Did you buy a copy of the marriage cert to get her fathers name as William?  What was his occupation?

Have you found her on earlier censuses before she married Henry?

Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 30 November 20 21:55 GMT (UK)
The 1897 marriage is online and has father William a hawker

Grooms father Robert also a hawker

Having trouble finding her pre marriage though  :-\
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 November 20 22:26 GMT (UK)
Mary Matilda Manley born 1899 - mmn Pateman??
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 01 December 20 16:17 GMT (UK)
Oh didn't check that one, just Caroline which did have Stokes  :-\

Mary Ann and Henry (William Henry) seem to have mothers name Dixon  :-X

Leonard has Stokes so quite a mixed bag to sort out there. 

Maybe mother is under one of those other surnames pre marriage?
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 01 December 20 19:43 GMT (UK)
Mary Matilda Manley born 1899 - mmn Pateman??

The witness to the marriage looks like Sarah Patman/Pateman

The other William Stokes
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 01 December 20 19:51 GMT (UK)
I noticed that as well heywood. A couple of other observations,

There's a baptism 12th February 1878 Somerton,  Somerset of a Henry Manley. Parents Robert Manley & Fra** occ "Vagrant". Image on Anc*

Baptism of a Charlotte Eliza Stokes 21st December 1872 Wells Somerset, parents William & Emily occ " Umbrella Mender" birth registered in 1872 mmn Cox

Baptism of a Mark Stokes 5th December 1873 Walcot Somerset Parents William & Emily occ "Hawker" Birth reg 1873 mmn Cox

John
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 01 December 20 19:57 GMT (UK)
Just looking around:
Baptism
Long Sutton 1897
Charlotte Keziah Pateman daughter of William (deceased) and Sarah. Abide, Long Sutton and Occupation Travelling Basket Maker

Birth of C K Pateman, Axbridge - mmn Browne
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 01 December 20 21:22 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 01 December 20 21:47 GMT (UK)
Not getting very far.
There are two baptisms for Charlotte Pateman.  The one already mentioned - April 11th 1897, Long Sutton and one earlier, 31st March 1897 , the parish of Mark, Somerset where Sarah is described as a widow and a Gypsy.
Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: Chester Mazing on Thursday 03 December 20 19:04 GMT (UK)
Hi guys thanks for your input hope this helps.

   Household                Birth Place, Lyme Regis, Administer, Honiton, Dorset.

Henry Manley                  Head –1881/1972
Mary Manley                  Wife - 1880/1952
Mary Matilda Manley       D        1898/ ??      Wed to Frank Mutter
William Henry Manley       S        1905/1969  Wed to Millie ?
Caroline Manley               D        1907/1999  Wed to William Mutter
Lenard Manley               S        1910/1991
Charlie                          S        1913/1997  Wed to Beryl ?
Robert                           S        1915/2007
William Manley (father)   S        1916/1990  Wed to Maureen Fay
Phyllis                            D       1922/2010  Wed James Orchard

  After leaving the C/Van at Golden Sq (app) 1950 the remaining family moved into a cottage owned by the Farmer Fred Boyland in Lower Bucehays.
  In 1938 still have Henry his wife Mary and son Lenard living in the cottage, Henry died in a fire when the cottage burnt down in 1972 aged 91yrs, had been a resident there  for app 40yrs.
  Still struggling with Mary Stokes did find another William stokes who was a butcher but had a brain freeze and lost the info!!
Many Thanks.
Chez.

Title: Re: Henry Mary Manley
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 05 December 20 21:25 GMT (UK)
Chester, Charles Manley (1913) married Beryl Symes in 1936 Calcutta, Bengal India. He married under the name William Charley Manley. Beryl appears with 2 children on 1939 register. Where her daughter "A" was born don't know but 4 other children born between 1938-1948 with mmn Symes.

John