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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Katie Steele on Sunday 22 November 20 18:46 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
I've been researching my family tree for many many years but have yet to really do any research outside of the UK. In aid of assisting my DNA matches I am trying to trace as far to present day as possible but I'm now coming across family that went to Australia and struggling to find much about them.
My g.grandfathers brother Alexander Thomas Steele bn.1876 Cotes, Staffordshire, England (sometimes Lipley farm, Shrophire) was in 1901 a drapers assistant in Birmingham, England and the next I find him... He has died in 1926 in his company's building in Wentworth Avenue, Sydney. There are several newspaper reports about it and they tell me he had separated from his wife Hilda and they had one child together. I have found again from the newspapers that Hilda died a year later.
My struggle is I can't find documents showing when he left to go there. I'd like to know when they married and who the child is.
Can anyone help point me in the right direction?
Many Thanks
Katie
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For those wanting some background to Mr STEELE's death, this news item may help.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/168721421
Sue
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A birth notice for the daughter. 1920
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15893848
Sue
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Probate Packets and Deceased Estates often valuable information often include certificates.
You could put in a request to Ros to kindly copy these docs if she is attending the Archives. https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703011.234
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/INDEX1122109
STEELE Hilda
Deceased Estates Index 1880-1939 Item No: Pre A 031606 [20/1235] | Date Duty Paid: 20/12/1928 | Place: Manly | Remarks: Occupation: widow
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/INDEX1122086
STEELE Alexander Thomas
Deceased Estates Index 1880-1939 Item No: Pre A 027131 [20/1185] | Date Duty Paid: 14/12/1928 | Place: Sydney | Remarks: Occupation: company manager
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/INDEX1824219
STEELE & MALONE
Business and Company Records 1903-1922 Item No: [2/8548] | File No: 33013 | Nature of Business: Dressmaking | Place of Business: 222 Clarence Street Sydney
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/246207620
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16424470
STEELE. — December 4th, 1927, at a Private Hospital, Darlinghurst, Mrs. Hilda Steele, of "Norfolk Pines," The Crescent, Manly. At Rest.
Funeral notice: Rookwood Crematorium
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/245424398 (Legal Notices)
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW SOUTH WALES.-Probate Jurisdiction.-In the Will and Two Codicils of HILDA STEELE late of Manly in the State of New South Wales Widow deceased. Pursuant to the Wills Probate and Administration Act 1898 of the Testator's Family Maintenance and Guardianship of Infants Act 1916 and the Trustee Act 1925 .....
Also in Government Gazette https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/219946156
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/245521208 (Last Column)
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https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?122
NSW birth 2/6/1920
22854/1920 STEELE N**** J. ; Father: Alexander T.; Mother: Hilda; Manly
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Just a note of warning so there's no confusion - there's is lots of information available about a Norma Jean STEELE, b NSW 1923. Unfortunately the NSW BMD birth indexes are not open past 1920. An on-line tree suggests that this Norma is the daughter of James Steele and Sylvia Saunders, and your Norma b 1920 so not your person.
I wonder who took care of your Norma as by age 7 she had lost both parents. Also, perhaps she changed her name later.
Judith
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For your interest.
Alexander is interred at Rookwood Cemetery.
No others are with him
Zone C Section 09 Grave 222
Sue
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Hi there,
They married in 1906 in South Africa:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91V-LWGX-G?cc=2727134&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPHX-ZNS8
Hilda was from Australia so perhaps her daughter went to stay with family?
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Hi
Find My Past has a copy of Hilda's Will, daughter is Norma June and Hilda names her sister Bessie
Bell wife of John William Bell of Adelaide to be Norma's Guardian
Cass
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Hi
Find My Past has a copy of Hilda's Will, daughter is Norma June and Hilda names her sister Bessie
Bell wife of John William Bell of Adelaide to be Norma's Guardian
Cass
Deaths:
202/1897 EVA Wm White parents SMITH-WHITE Grace and EVA Wm 58
Funeral notice, 3rd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article210361037
3474/1907 EVA Mary Ann parents NEWELL Rhoda and TROTMAN Wm BALLT aged 66
Cemetery: Ballarat Cemetery Old
Location Code: WN
Section: 05
Grave: 23
BCO-WN-05-2-105-23
Deceased: ELIZABETH EVA 2 24-7-1866
HILDA EVA 3 20-3-1875
THOMAS EVA 0 2-4-1875
JOHN EVA 24 26-4-1890
WILLIAM WHITE EVA
MARY ANN EVA 66 1-7-1907
Children: Parents TROTMAN Mary Ann and EVA William
13414/1860 William
266/1862 Sophia
Married:
1458/1888 EVA Sophia to JOLLY James
Died:
16238/1945 JOLLY Sophia BALLARAT aged 82
Ballarat Cemetery New
Private A, Section 02, Row 1, Grave 37
375/1864 Elizabeth died 7197/1866
323/1866 John died 5658/1890
727/1868 Emily Grace
1430/1870 Laura
Married:
6449/1892 EVA Laura to CADDY, Jas
Died:
11160/1946 CADDY Laura MURRUMBEENA aged 77
Death and funeral notices, 2nd and 7th columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article204947555
Springvale Botanical Cemetery - Joshua Jordan Lawn, Row AF, Grave 09
CADDY James Buried 26 February 1936
CADDY Laura Buried 14 October 1946
1445/1872 Hilda Rhoda died 275/1875
7734/1874 Thomas Edward died 5637/1875
426/1877 Hilda
367/1879 Elizabeth
6904/1884 Walter Robert
Died, South Africa: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01q34/
Jamjar
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I’m not seeing a marriage for BELL/EVA
I think this may a son:
South Australia: 321/49 1929 BELL Gordon Francis to Nancy Hughes at Norwood
VIC: 17467/1980 BELL Gordon Francis parents Elizabeth EVER and BELL John William Fitzroy North 76
Jamjar