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Title: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 08:50 GMT (UK)
I have recently come across a 120 year old grave for a Spanish Captain in Preston Cemetery, North Shields and have added this to Find A Grave. 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218740067/juan-amilliga

I was thinking it might be nice to be able to add a little something to his biography in case any of his descendants (possibly still living in Spain) might see the photos and wonder about his connection with the North East. 

So I was wondering if anyone might know anything more about him than is revealed by the grave.  If no one does I will just try to find out a little more myself when our local studies eventually reopens again.

Apologies that the inscription is not very clear.  It is not very clear either when actually standing at the memorial and it seems to be in Spanish which complicates things.  Clicking on 'View Original' might make the inscription slightly better but not much, sorry.

This is what is known:

His name was Juan Amilliga.  He died on 3 Enero 1900. (I have googled and this appears to be January).  He is buried in Section J which means he was Roman Catholic.  I can make out that the inscription relates that he was a 'Capitan De La Marina' and 'Mercante Espanola'.  He must have been either well off enough to afford a purchased grave and memorial or have had others who were prepared to arrange this for him.

Thank you for reading this.  It is quite unusual to come across a grave of a foreign Captain in our local cemeteries so I am hoping someone might be able to shed more light on his story.  If not I will look into this more once the local studies opens eventually.
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: cath151 on Thursday 19 November 20 09:28 GMT (UK)
Hi
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR82-P4M
Possible baptism?
There is a newspaper piece Shields Daily Gazette 5th Jan 1900 entitled "Sudden Death of a Spanish Ship Captain"
Captain of the Spanish steamer Enero from Bilbao.
Mostly about the circumstances of his death.
Available Findmypast or British Newspaper archives.

Cathy
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 19 November 20 09:59 GMT (UK)
aged 85, wowser, he was a good age, I noticed you have left a postem on freebmd that is so thoughtful
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 19 November 20 10:17 GMT (UK)
The newspaper report states he is 35 years old
captain of the Spanish steamer Enero of Bilbao,
The steward who is named Ignatius said that the deceased left his ship,which was lying near Smiths docks,and shortly before 6pm on the 3rd inst,and went ashore apparently in good health, A man named Sharp said the deceased ran into his arms on Wednesday night in the Bull Ring,and asked him to take him to a doctor,A little blood was running from his mouth ,Witness assisted him a little way and then the deceased fell on his nose,the blood rushing from his mouth,With the assistance of PC Hope he took him to the Bull ring police station,PC Hope said the man was dead when they got him to the station.The body bore no marks of violence .Dr Brumwell deposed that death was due to the rupture of a large blood vessel in the chest,and the jury returned a verdict accordingly
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 10:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much Cath and Radcliff for help/posts.  I should be able to get that article at the local studies when the local studies reopens.  I know they have this newspaper on micrifilm.  :)

That is puzzling if he was really 85.  That baptism is for a much younger person.  Would he really still be heading a ship at 85 .. the mind boggles ..  :o

Yes, I added that postem to possibly let descendants know where to find this deceased ancestor.  I always like to know where the story ends for my own ancestors too - so I think every little pointer helps.  :)
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 19 November 20 10:24 GMT (UK)
Enero seems to have been a regular visitor to Shields,

Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 10:25 GMT (UK)
Aah!  That sounds more credible that he was only 35 and heading a ship. Thanks so much for this Radcliff.  Poor thing what an awful sudden death!   :o
We will likely never know but surely something must have happened beforehand to trigger a sudden rupture in one still quite young!
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 10:27 GMT (UK)
Enero .. Coincidence that ship was called 'January' and he died in January.
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 19 November 20 11:23 GMT (UK)
Though FreeBMD says he was 85, that is an error. The image from which the transcription was done 'does' say 35 - as does the GRO site.

I'll send in a correction report to FreeBMD, it will take a while but they will correct the entry.

Boo


Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 11:31 GMT (UK)
Oh thank you very much for this Boo.  That '85' age might mislead someone.  I suppose it is easily done to mistakenly see a 3 as an 8.

Just an update - thanks so much for the help today.  I have now been able to add this info to his 'biography' for any descendants who may chance along to see it one day.  Much appreciated! :)
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 19 November 20 11:40 GMT (UK)
There is one baptism on Ancestry and a tree,
it may be worth sending a message,
Juan De Amilliga
baptised 9th Feb 1867
father Vicente De Amilliga
mother Carmen De Sanpelayo
San Jorge,Santurce- Antiguo,
Vizcaya Spain
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 11:47 GMT (UK)
That is a great idea Radcliff!  I hope someone can.  Unfortunately, I have no sub.  I only have free tree up and can only message some of my DNA matches. 

I think it would be good for this person to know that there is a memorial and a bit more of his story.  They may not know this so might appreciate being told.  Thanks for checking out that there is a relevant tree.  :)
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 19 November 20 13:02 GMT (UK)
I will message them on your behalf x they haven't been active for some time, and my message wont send, if someone else would like to try that would be fabulous
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 13:25 GMT (UK)
That is very kind Radcliff that you have tried.  Perhaps they might see a message one day from someone or perhaps they too have passed on and it is too late.  Perhaps that is why your message can't get through.

I think this memorial and info will be of interest to someone one day so I don't think this is at all in vain.  Thank you for trying to let them know.  :)

Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: mrsruz on Thursday 19 November 20 13:49 GMT (UK)
Do you think it is possible that he died on "Enero" the ship, rather than in Enero (January)
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 19 November 20 13:58 GMT (UK)
Do you think it is possible that he died on "Enero" the ship, rather than in Enero (January)

The newspaper report of his sudden death was dated 5th January 1900, so I think RTL is correct that Enero was the name of his ship ( as per newspaper) and also his month of death

Boo
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: josey on Thursday 19 November 20 14:00 GMT (UK)
my message wont send, if someone else would like to try that would be fabulous
Happy to try but the tree is not coming up on a search for me  ???

We will likely never know but surely something must have happened beforehand to trigger a sudden rupture in one still quite young!
Might have been an abdominal aortic aneurysm?
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/abdominal-aortic-aneurysm/
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: JenB on Thursday 19 November 20 14:05 GMT (UK)
We will likely never know but surely something must have happened beforehand to trigger a sudden rupture in one still quite young!
Might have been an abdominal aortic aneurysm?
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/abdominal-aortic-aneurysm/

I immediately thought of an aortic aneurysm.

My uncle died at the age of 31 of an a. a. and the death certificate said that it was associated with hypertension and kidney disease.
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: josey on Thursday 19 November 20 14:06 GMT (UK)
When I worked in a blood transfusion lab we had to cross match oodles of units for an AAA.

ADDED: Have found the tree now under Juan Amilliga Sampelayo. Will try to send message.
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 14:22 GMT (UK)
When I was right up to the memorial I could see that the inscription showed as '3 Enero 1900' and later googled to get translation of the month.  So I do believe this is the correct date.  A bit of a coincidence though that his vessel was called 'Enero' (January).

I think that sounds quite plausible for his cause of death.  Very unfortunate though  that he seems to have been much below the risk age when this occurred.  He might not have been able to be saved even if he knew he had a problem or even if he did get to a doctor in time - they might not have had the knowledge or the skill to help back then perhaps?  At least it sounds like his end was quick albeit quite alarming.  :o

Jen, that is tragic that your own Uncle died so young due to this .. awful to think that even in these modern times this can still happen.  :-\

I think it is quite touching perhaps that the inscription is in Spanish.  Perhaps given by his steward or someone from his vessel perhaps.  I think this shows that this was not a communication form to the English living in the area but a message of remembrance perhaps to his family or descendants who might seek to find him one day ...

Thanks so much that you will now try to send a message Josey.  :)
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: josey on Thursday 19 November 20 14:30 GMT (UK)
Very strange, I found Juan Amillaga Sanpelayo once, went to message the tree owner Miguel something but it reverted to my own messages. Doing another search for Juan I can't find him...I am persisting though.
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 14:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you Josie for persisting even though this is not proving easy .. well, they do say they will be found when they want to be found .. mind this usually relates to the dead and not the living ..  ;D

Hopefully, a connection might be made with Miguel soon.  Thanks lots for trying. :)
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 19 November 20 14:54 GMT (UK)
Very strange, I found Juan Amillaga Sanpelayo once, went to message the tree owner Miguel something but it reverted to my own messages. Doing another search for Juan I can't find him...I am persisting though.

I had looked at the tree so dug the url for Juan's details from my browsing history if it helps.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/168111169/person/152180680599/facts

I've been having difficulty with the messaging system this morning, but its just decided to play nice, though you never know how long that will last :).

Maybe if you try again it will let you send the message?

Boo
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: josey on Thursday 19 November 20 14:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks will do Boo.

ADDED: Done - and in Spanish  ;) maybe he'll come back in perfect English.
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 19 November 20 16:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks for helping with sorting things Boo and thanks Josey.  My!  You are clever to send a message in Spanish too!   :)
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: josey on Friday 20 November 20 13:20 GMT (UK)
All thanks to U3A lessons  ;). I think you can see a tick when a message has been read. As Radcliff said, Miguel hadn't been online with ancestry for a year.
Title: Re: Help - Spaniard in North Shields: JUAN AMILLIGA
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Monday 23 November 20 10:36 GMT (UK)
Well, it was a great idea of yours to communicate to him about this in his own langage.  Fortuitous that you took those lessons Josey. :)
Perhaps Miguel might have passed on too or he might come back and read this message one day.  I sometimes wonder if some people treat Ancestry like a gym membership?  They pay, feel good and then just forget about it and never use. ;D

Anyway, even if Miguel is never heard from I do appreciate your help and the posts from all on this thread.  I do feel it will be of help to some descendant one day. :)