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Title: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Lakelass on Wednesday 11 November 20 10:42 GMT (UK)
I am researching this family, I think they may have come from Adelaide S.A. & wondered if some kind person could possibly look them up for me? I have put what little I know so far. I would be very grateful for any help. Thanks Fike

Marriage of the parents, maiden name of Mary, birth of all, immigration if not born there?

William Hynes         
B. Abt 1841     D. 5/9/1889 Sydney NSW Aust. P's John & Catherine

Wife Mary or Mary Agnes
B. Abt 1850   D. 20/11/1926 Manly NSW Aust. P's Henry & Rosina
            Religion Catholic

Children:  all died NSW Aust

Frederick William
Henry J.
John Baptist  B. Abt 1871  D.1897 
Rosina                                D. 1967
Gertrude                             D. 1950
James             B.Abt 1886  D. 1914
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 11 November 20 23:21 GMT (UK)
You have posted in the wrong section. You may like to have the moderator move it to the main Australia board.

Rookwood Catholic Cemetery

Hynes William 48 8-9-1889 SEC*M1*F**903
Hynes John Baptist 28 18-6-1897 SEC*M1*N**49
Hynes Margaret May 6 mth 23-4-1898 SEC*M1*N**49
Hynes Henry 55 4-3-1932 SEC*M2*9**5536

Manly Cemetery

Hynes James 28 25-2-1914 CATH-P148
Hynes Mary, Mrs 76 22-11-1926 CATH-P-148

Northern Suburbs Memorial Gardens

Hynes Gertrude 17-4-1950: https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/northernsuburbsmemorialgardens/gertrude-hynes/785768
Hynes Frederick William 86 4-3-1960: https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/northernsuburbsmemorialgardens/frederick-william-hynes/766315
Hynes Rosina 11-2-1967:
https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/northernsuburbsmemorialgardens/rosina-hynes/763053

William’s funeral notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13738695

Mary’s funeral notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16333857

Frederick William: 4726/1960 MANLY

Henry J.: 224/1932 SYDNEY

John Baptist: 5710/1897 NEWTOWN
Funeral notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article14098161
In Memoriam, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article113272042

Rosina: 11202/1967 ST LEONARDS
Death notice, 1st page: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19670215&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Gertrude: 7926/1950 NORTH SYDNEY         
Death notice, 3rd column:  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27575597 
 
James: 4542/1914 MANLY
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15498397

Transcripts of William and Mary's death certificates will provide you with relevant information.

1409/1889 HYNES William
19389/1926 HYNES Mary

Jamjar
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 November 20 00:23 GMT (UK)
Based on ages stated at death, order of children is:

1869 John
1874 Frederick
1877 Henry
1883 Rosina
1886 James

With Gertrude fitting in somewhere.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Lakelass on Thursday 12 November 20 01:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for your time Jamjar, but I am after information prior to NSW.
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 November 20 02:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for your time Jamjar, but I am after information prior to NSW.

I have put what little I know so far.

Yes, and I have expanded on the little you know.

With ages at death you now have additional approx. birth years, which may assist with finding them prior to NSW.

You need the death certificates of the parents.

Where did John B marry Mary E? It would be useful to know, as it may assist with a timeframe for their move to NSW, assuming they came from another state.

What was William’s occupation?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: TreeSpirit on Thursday 12 November 20 04:19 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage in St Patricks Church Adelaide for:
William HINES, 22Y  (s of John HINES)
And
Mary CONRY, 16 Y (d of Henry CONRY)

I can’t see any births for their children  in SA ….
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 November 20 04:22 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage in St Patricks Church Adelaide for:
William HINES, 22Y  (s of John HINES)
And
Mary CONRY, 16 Y (d of Henry CONRY)

I can’t see any births for their children  in SA ….

The year?

I couldn’t see births there, VIC or NSW. :-\

Jamjar
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: majm on Thursday 12 November 20 04:26 GMT (UK)
What occupation for William?

The Sands Directories and the Assessment Books  are both  readily and freely available online, via the Archives of the Sydney City Council. 

Sands 1885 Sydney Alphabetical Directory ...
William HYNES, cabinet maker, Hodges Cottages, 357 Sussex St.

NSW Electoral Roll 1878 WEST SYDNEY
William HYNES household, off Sussex St.

JM
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 November 20 04:35 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage in St Patricks Church Adelaide for:
William HINES, 22Y  (s of John HINES)
And
Mary CONRY, 16 Y (d of Henry CONRY)

I can’t see any births for their children  in SA ….

Death of mother:

18/362 1866 CONRY Rosana ADELAIDE

Death notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41035475

Possible death of father:

283/93 1902 CONRY Henry NORWOOD

Death notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article200779153

If this is him, he was Irish and he remarried, 2nd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article166996568

So, Mary was not born in SA.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: TreeSpirit on Thursday 12 November 20 04:37 GMT (UK)
 
There is a marriage in St Patricks Church Adelaide for:
William HINES, 22Y  (s of John HINES)
And
Mary CONRY, 16 Y (d of Henry CONRY)

I can’t see any births for their children  in SA ….

The year?

I couldn’t see births there, VIC or NSW. :-\

Jamjar
,

Sorry, missed the important part: 1868-11-20
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: TreeSpirit on Thursday 12 November 20 05:07 GMT (UK)
Death Adelaide 1866-11-27 Adelaide –
Rosanna CONRY (39Y, husband Henry CONRY)

Marriage 1868-05-24 St Rose Kapunda –
Henry CONROY (wid, age NR, son of William CONROY) X Mary OBRIEN (S, age NR, d of Dennis OBRIEN)

Death 1891-08-25 Norwood –
Mary CONRY (56Y, husband Henry CONRY)

Marriage 1892-01-04 Res Of Archbishop Adelaide –
Henry CONRY (Wid, 65Y, son of William CONRY) X Ann KELLY (48Y, S, d of Patrick KELLY)

Death 1902-01-14 Kensington –
Henry CONRY (75Y)
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 November 20 05:12 GMT (UK)
Conry Henry 16/01/1902 16/01/1902 Catholic Old Area Specific burial location unknown   

2 wives aren’t showing on the cemetery search.

196/73 1891 CONRY Mary NORWOOD

438/189 1920 CONRY Ann NORWOOD
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article210557038
CONROY Ann 12/06/1920 12/06/1920 Catholic Western Ground, Row NULL, Site Number 0

Jamjar
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 12 November 20 05:31 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage in St Patricks Church Adelaide for:
William HINES, 22Y  (s of John HINES)
And
Mary CONRY, 16 Y (d of Henry CONRY)

I can’t see any births for their children  in SA ….

The year?

I couldn’t see births there, VIC or NSW. :-\

Jamjar
,

Sorry, missed the important part: 1868-11-20

77/390 1868 HINES William to Mary at ADELAIDE

Jamjar
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: TreeSpirit on Thursday 12 November 20 07:36 GMT (UK)

Some individuals who have Henry CONRY as a father, so possible siblings of Mary CONRY:

William CONRY b abt 1849/50
     X 3 May 1873 St Patrick’s Church, Adelaide to Catherine HUGHES b abt 1849/50 (d of John HUGHES)
Bartholomew J CONRY b abt 1850
     X 5 Jan 1875 St Patrick’s Church, Adelaide to Eliza MURPHY b abt 1852 (d of William MURPHY)
Catherine CONRY b abt 1855
     X#1 21 Apr 1878 St Patrick’s Church, Adelaide to Patrick MARTIN b abt 1845 (s of Patrick MARTIN)
     X#2 15 Oct 1888 Catholic Presbytery Kadina to James BUTLER b abt 1839 (wid, s of William BUTLER)
Peter CONRY b abt 1856
     X 16 Apr 1883 Eliza Murphy to Ellen OREILLY b abt 1856 (d of Martin OREILLY)
Teresa CONRY b abt 1858
     X 20 Nov 1881 St Ignatius Norwood to Richard PALME b abt 1856 (s of John PALME)
Esther CONRY b abt 1859
     X 21 Apr 1878 St Patrick’s Church, Adelaide to John OREILLY b abt 1856 (s of Martin OREILLY)
Michael CONRY b April 1862, d 25 April 1862 (6D) Adelaide
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: TreeSpirit on Thursday 12 November 20 07:46 GMT (UK)
One more:

In 1950 a James CONRY b Adelaide , 87 Y (i.e. b abt 1863) dies in Ballarat VIC. His dad is Henry CONRY and his mum is Rosanna MEARA
(FYI In 1890 a James CONRY b Adelaide marries a Beatrice Maud ROBSON in Victoria )
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Lakelass on Thursday 12 November 20 19:20 GMT (UK)
Thank you TreeSpirit & Jamjar.  Could you find any births for William  & Mary hynes/Hines born in S.A.,they were married 1868 Adelaide S.A..
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Essie on Friday 13 November 20 01:51 GMT (UK)
It was not uncommon that Catholic parents in SA did not always register births of children.
You will need to look for baptisms.

Essie
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Lakelass on Friday 13 November 20 04:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you Essie, that seems to be them. Regards Lakelass
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: JACK GEE on Friday 13 November 20 05:17 GMT (UK)
I have a connection to the SA Hynes thru my Shannon tree - see below.
I also have a Conry/Kelly connection thru my Gilbert tree. Since they are possibly still alive the geographic situation does not match as mine are Melbourne/Goondiwindi & Brisbane.

MarcusGourieSHANNON(b.15.5.1885MyalBurn,Towitta. d.26.5.1928South Australia. m. MaryHINES/HYNES.b.20.5.1884.

Happy to chat further or PM me.

cheers
Jack Gee
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Lakelass on Friday 13 November 20 07:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jack I will look into it. This weekend I'll  put everything together & see what I have.
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: seeking0 on Thursday 19 November 20 10:18 GMT (UK)
Conry Henry 16/01/1902 16/01/1902 Catholic Old Area Specific burial location unknown   

2 wives aren’t showing on the cemetery search.

196/73 1891 CONRY Mary NORWOOD

438/189 1920 CONRY Ann NORWOOD
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article210557038
CONROY Ann 12/06/1920 12/06/1920 Catholic Western Ground, Row NULL, Site Number 0

Jamjar

You can see a photo of the headstone for Henry Conry and both wives here https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/158655248/henry-conry .
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Lakelass on Thursday 19 November 20 11:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you seeking 0, I'm  really grateful for your time.
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: Cathy_Aus on Tuesday 07 November 23 01:13 GMT (UK)
Hi
I have Hannah Gertrude Monica Conry
1891–1945
BIRTH 11 JAN 1891 • Norwood Sa

DEATH 16 MAR 1945 • Glenelg South Australia  Married William Patrick Hynes   Conry Line goesback to my Direct Morrisey line in SA Then back to Tipperary
Regards
Cathy:)
Title: Re: Look up South Australia - HYNES Family
Post by: seeking0 on Wednesday 08 November 23 06:13 GMT (UK)
From the Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885
HYNES, William
Residence: Adelaide, Glen Osmond
Religion: Roman Catholic
Marriage: 20.8.1868 at Adelaide to Mary nee CONRY
Children: John Baptist born 1872, Frederick William born 1874, Henry James born 1876