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Title: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Jonesey2 on Wednesday 11 November 20 08:11 GMT (UK)
I have an 1851 census which shows my 3x G Grandfather, John Gibson’s, birthplace as ‘Hoxaybridge, Yorkshire’, but there's no such place. I’ve been wracking my brain and searching through lists of Yorkshire towns that might sound like this, and coming up blank until I suddenly wondered if there might be a place called Hawksbridge, as this seems to me the most likely error a census taker might make. It's not a transcription error - the original says the same, quite clearly. At the time he was living in Kirkwall, Orkney, where he died in 1866.

His birth year seems to be 1776-1778, from the censuses and his death certificate where his age is shown as 88.  Based on this certificate his father’s name was also John Gibson, farmer, but his mother is shown as ‘unknown’.

I know he lived in Peebles where he’s named on ‘heads of families’ lists for 3 years 1834-1836 working as a ‘steward’ on two farms there. His children were born at Manor, Peebles, between 1826 and 1836.

I have no marriage record either, which I know might help. His wife was Ann Kerr, born at Muirkirk, Ayrshire.

So, I discovered a Hawksbridge Lane (apparently the only one in the UK), near the village of Oxenhope, Bradford District, in West Yorkshire, and a Hawksbridge Cottage. I’m thinking this might have been a farm once and maybe this is my ancestor’s birthplace.

I’d appreciate any tips or local knowledge that could help me in my search for some documentary evidence of his birth or anything else, as otherwise I’m at a brick wall. And I’m not in the UK so I’m limited to online material.
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 11 November 20 09:47 GMT (UK)
There is a birth of a John Gibson in 1777, Sutton in Holderness, Hull, father's name  John

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9QF-7J9

Also several others in Yorkshire
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 11 November 20 09:56 GMT (UK)
This has been posted previously

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=820932.0
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 11 November 20 09:58 GMT (UK)
I was nosey, looked at the original and wondered whether it might be Thornybridge or similar.  Attaching an extract in case anyone has any better thoughts :-\  Looks as though the person who wrote it changed there mind part the way through

Kay
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: chempat on Wednesday 11 November 20 10:00 GMT (UK)
Did he just put England on the 1861 census?
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Jonesey2 on Wednesday 11 November 20 10:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you Kloumann - Yes, I did ask about John Gibson in a previous post when I was trying to find a town with a similar name, and I had no success - thought I may as well give up on him because I just don't have enough to go on and his name is such a common one. But when I found Hawksbridge Lane/cottage I thought it might be worth pursuing this - hence this new question. 
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Jonesey2 on Wednesday 11 November 20 10:19 GMT (UK)
Yes, Chempat, his birthplace on the 1861 census is just 'England'.

Kay99 - Thornybridge is an interesting idea. Can you point out where the census writer changed his mind? I can't see it. Thanks for posting the extract - great idea.
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 11 November 20 10:38 GMT (UK)
Yes, Chempat, his birthplace on the 1861 census is just 'England'.

Kay99 - Thornybridge is an interesting idea. Can you point out where the census writer changed his mind? I can't see it. Thanks for posting the extract - great idea.

I thought that the 2 letters after the H or Th might have been overwritten
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: chempat on Wednesday 11 November 20 11:35 GMT (UK)
Is there an 'H' or 'Th' on the page for comparison?
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 11 November 20 12:03 GMT (UK)
The T in Tweedale looks similar
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Jonesey2 on Wednesday 11 November 20 12:16 GMT (UK)
There's a good example of Th and H. These letters look very similar. Trying to attach an extract but not having any luck. There are also errors - Tweedle, Mariner should be Peebles, Manor.
Title: Re: John Gibson - Birthplace Hawksbridge??
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 11 November 20 12:17 GMT (UK)
Is there an 'H' or 'Th' on the page for comparison?

The only H or T on the page are in Tweedale and just realised that there are more :-\