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Title: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Tink22 on Sunday 08 November 20 13:11 GMT (UK)
Hi im trying to find out where James davidson from bulwark old deer is buried, also his wife isabella davidson nee gibb

James died in 1874 and was a farm servant.

Isabella died 1916 living in Strichen at the time.

Old deer and new deer has been searched, anywhere near by he might be located?

Thanks
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: flst on Sunday 08 November 20 20:59 GMT (UK)
When you say they've been searched, to what extent? New Deer has a churchyard & also a cemetery.   There are also graves around the Church of Scotland church in Old Deer but the cemetery is located in Stuartfield. Have you visited the sites & looked for a headstone? There may not be one. Not everyone could afford one. Fetterangus & Savoch churchyards are not too far away, likewise Strichen.  Have you searched on Desceased online?
regards,
flst
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: flst on Sunday 08 November 20 21:12 GMT (UK)
Tink22, I should have welcomed you to rootschat in my reply to you! I thought you'd like to see this postcard of Bulwark :)
flst
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Tink22 on Sunday 08 November 20 23:26 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks for the info, my cousin searched old deer and new deer, have just searched bna site and found obit listing old deer churchyard, will have a look there and hopefully both there

Thanks for the bulwark postcard, know nothing about bulwark so its great to see
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 08 November 20 23:43 GMT (UK)
(Aberdeen) Evening Express, Saturday 4th November 1916:

DAVIDSON.- At 73 High Street, Strichen, on the 3rd
inst., Isabella Gibb, widow of James Davidson,
Bulwark, Maud, in her 92nd year. Funeral on
Tuesday, the 7th inst., at 12 noon, to Old Deer
Churchyard. This the only intimation and in-
vitation.
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: flst on Monday 09 November 20 10:57 GMT (UK)
Anything you need to know about Bulwark, just ask me :)
flst
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: flst on Monday 09 November 20 11:05 GMT (UK)
If you like, now that we know where Isabella's buried, I could have a walk round the churchyard & look for a headstone. It's not too big to search & I live nearby.
flst
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Tink22 on Monday 09 November 20 11:23 GMT (UK)
If you like, now that we know where Isabella's buried, I could have a walk round the churchyard & look for a headstone. It's not too big to search & I live nearby.
flst

Hi thanks, having a look there today, hopefully find them, thanks for offer  :)
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: flst on Monday 09 November 20 12:42 GMT (UK)
Good luck!
I note that in 1901 Isabella was still living in Bulwark & was a pauper. It would be a good idea to try & find out if she was in receipt of poor relief. Have you found her in the 1911 census? What does her death certificate say? If she was poor then there may not be a headstone but no harm in looking :)
flst
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Tink22 on Monday 09 November 20 15:29 GMT (UK)
Good luck!
I note that in 1901 Isabella was still living in Bulwark & was a pauper. It would be a good idea to try & find out if she was in receipt of poor relief. Have you found her in the 1911 census? What does her death certificate say? If she was poor then there may not be a headstone but no harm in looking :)
flst

Hi no sign of her in the churchyard, quite a few headstones unreadable though, nothing of note on her death certificate, domestic servant ( retired) husbands first name listed as William it was James, likely error on her grandsons part as he was witness on certificate

Not looked at census yet, will do so

Where do I look to see if she got poor relief?
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 09 November 20 16:00 GMT (UK)
Where do I look to see if she got poor relief?
Aberdeen Archives https://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/services/libraries-and-archives/aberdeen-city-and-aberdeenshire-archives
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Tink22 on Tuesday 10 November 20 09:50 GMT (UK)
Hi just checked 1911 census, she was living with her son in law and his family in Strichen

Have contacted Aberdeenshire council to see if they have any records on her or her husband, nothing coming up on deseasedonline

Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: flst on Tuesday 10 November 20 11:05 GMT (UK)
In the 1911 census does it state whether she's still a pauper? As she's living with family then the relief may have ceased. The poor relief records are held in Dunbar House, Old Aberdeen. I think the archives are closed to the public during this pandemic. They did do look ups before, so here's hoping they can assist. :)
flst
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Tink22 on Tuesday 10 November 20 11:11 GMT (UK)
No mention of being a pauper on census, not having much luck with records

Council say they don't hold records for the churchyard, we phoned the minister of the church yesterday and said  they dont hold records, the council did

Any ideas if any records and who would have them?

Thanks
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: flst on Tuesday 10 November 20 11:19 GMT (UK)
The Fraserburgh Registrary office used to have the lair records but I don't think they are available at the moment due to covid.   
flst   
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Tink22 on Tuesday 10 November 20 11:53 GMT (UK)
The Fraserburgh Registrary office used to have the lair records but I don't think they are available at the moment due to covid.   
flst

Just contacted them by email and they have forwarded it on to the council lol

Going round in circles, dont think much more I can do with this
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: flst on Tuesday 10 November 20 13:07 GMT (UK)
I have many ancestors with no known graves.  At least there's still a chance you'll uncover the poor relief application form for Isabella.  It will contain loads of information. You'll just have to be patient but don't give up hope.I was able to find my gt.gt. grandmother from the information on her illegitimate son's application form. I had been unable to find her for many years. I already knew her maiden name from my gt.grandad's marriage certificate but never found her on the censuses. She had married & I found out her married name & also address! She is buried in Old Deer cemetery & has a headstone.
flst
Title: Re: Davidson - Bulwark Old Deer
Post by: Alcluith on Wednesday 10 March 21 08:19 GMT (UK)
Good luck!
I note that in 1901 Isabella was still living in Bulwark & was a pauper. It would be a good idea to try & find out if she was in receipt of poor relief. Have you found her in the 1911 census? What does her death certificate say? If she was poor then there may not be a headstone but no harm in looking :)
flst

Hi no sign of her in the churchyard, quite a few headstones unreadable though, nothing of note on her death certificate, domestic servant ( retired) husbands first name listed as William it was James, likely error on her grandsons part as he was witness on certificate

Not looked at census yet, will do so

Where do I look to see if she got poor relief?

I am James and Isabella's  great great grandson and have a lot of information about the family. Have sent you a PM
Alcluith