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Title: Help needed, please
Post by: S128 on Monday 26 October 20 10:37 GMT (UK)
I can't seem to find any birth information or parental information on a 10 x Great Grandfather called Israel Giew/Gue. He died 1692 in Gussage All Saints, Dorset, England. He married a Grace Lane.

I have reason to believe he may have been Jewish due to his first and last name? not entirely sure though or if this would be the reason I can't find any type of birth record. Could anyone help?

Many thanks!
Title: Re: Help needed, please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 26 October 20 11:01 GMT (UK)
Just adding that his marriage to Grace Lane took place at Gussage (St Michael) 7 Sep 1654
Title: Re: Help needed, please
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 26 October 20 11:58 GMT (UK)
Dorset OPC site has his name as Farell   ::)

 http://www.opcdorset.org/GussageStMichaelFiles/GussageStMichaelMars1654-1837.htm


Possible baptism:  Israell Gue, 1627, at Ringwood, Hampshire;  father Thomas.

Numerous online trees giving a birth in Gussage All Saints but no source shown.  ::)
Title: Re: Help needed, please
Post by: S128 on Monday 26 October 20 12:20 GMT (UK)
Dorset OPC site has his name as Farell   ::)

 http://www.opcdorset.org/GussageStMichaelFiles/GussageStMichaelMars1654-1837.htm


Possible baptism:  Israell Gue, 1627, at Ringwood, Hampshire;  father Thomas.

Numerous online trees giving a birth in Gussage All Saints but no source shown.  ::)

Thank you for the info.

I did see him in quite a few online trees but also couldn't find any sources for his birth on them either. But the one in Hampshire looks promising.

Would I be right in thinking he may be Jewish? my Dad seems to think the surname Gue/Giew stands for Jew.
Title: Re: Help needed, please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 26 October 20 12:22 GMT (UK)
If you google  'Surname Gue' some sites suggest that it is French.
Title: Re: Help needed, please
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 26 October 20 12:23 GMT (UK)
If he was Jewish he would not have been baptised.
Title: Re: Help needed, please
Post by: Rena on Monday 26 October 20 14:50 GMT (UK)
Last name: Gue

Recorded as Delagua, Dugue, Duguet, Gue, and probably others, this is a French surname. It is cognate with the English word and surname 'Ford', being residential, and describing somebody who lived by a shallow river crossing, or who may have come from a   town or village of the same name.

There are several websites where you can enter a surname and it will give information of historical country of distribution.  I tried a French website and discovered Gue was common to several areas of France.

Websites showing Distribution of surname Gue   

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Surname_Distribution_Maps

and on the subject of the familysearch website, they have several French bap;tisms of people born "Gue" living along the coast of France in Brittany/Bretagne,
Title: Re: Help needed, please
Post by: garstonite on Monday 26 October 20 15:24 GMT (UK)
https://gw.geneanet.org/framptonrgig?lang=en&pz=christina+rose&nz=frampton&p=israel&n=gue
tree owner - Ruth Frampton - any relation ?

19,000 records of the Gue surname in England on this site
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=gue&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=England%2C+United+Kingdom&country__0__=GBR&region__0__=ENG&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
Title: Re: Help needed, please
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 26 October 20 16:02 GMT (UK)
Biblical names are very common in some families. My grandfather had an uncle Israel with siblings Rebekah, Elias, Susannah, etc. and they weren't Jewish.