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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: Tecumsah123 on Monday 12 October 20 19:20 BST (UK)
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I would be extremely grateful for serious guidance from anybody with some smart moves when it comes to tracking down Irish family BMDs.
My great-grandfather died in Ballyporeen, Tipperary, between the 1901 and 1911 census but I can't find any record of his death in the online records. Every so often over the past 10 years myself and my wife have studied the online records hoping they have been updated and include my great-grandfather but without any luck at all so far.
Is there any other way that I could find a record of his death or will I just have to assume the record of his death has been lost? Any help or suggestions would be very gratefullt received.
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I think there are records that just aren’t there for whatever reason.
Could he have died in a different area?
Is there a family grave which might give you the year at least?
Maybe the local church would have a burial record although that might be difficult. I am not sure whether they were recorded in the same way as baptisms and marriages.
Have you looked for misspelling of the name?
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I never found a death for my husband's great grandmother in Kildare, Southern Ireland. She died sometime after 1911 and would have been in her 80s. (Maybe she's still alive!!)
If you want to give his name maybe some super sleuth can help.
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Maybe she's living with my great-grandfather - the hussey!
I've taken your advice and listed my great-grandfather's name - Edmond Barry - on another post. I hope it may help.
Thank you again for your reply.
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Funnily enough - she was taking people to court between 1901 and 1911. It was woe betide anyone who crossed her. I actually did wonder if she may have been killed and buried in a field!
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Hi
If Edmond Barry is your gr grandfather who died in Ballyporeen between 1901 and 1911, is he on the 1901 census? Can you give us the link?
Also what is the christian name of your grandfather - his son.
Cheers
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Hello
Thank you for getting in touch.
I'm not quite sure what link you need exactly. We got our information from The National Archives of Ireland: Census of Ireland 1901, Residents of a house 4 in Newcastle (Ballyporeen, Tipperary).
My grandfather's christian name was James.
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I'm not quite sure what link you need exactly. We got our information from The National Archives of Ireland: Census of Ireland 1901, Residents of a house 4 in Newcastle (Ballyporeen, Tipperary).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Ballyporeen/Newcastle/1709092/
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This may help or maybe not :-\
Marriage of James Barry In 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10012/5641316.pdf
Edmond is not noted as deceased. It may be that the information was not asked for/offered but there are two other marriages on the page conducted by the same priest where the father is noted as deceased. :-\
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My grandfather's christian name was James.
James in 1911 census with his mother Johanna.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Ballyporeen/Newcastle/814411/
Death of Johanna in 1913.......informant her son James.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05316/4479511.pdf
KG
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Thank you for your trouble.
We have only had a problem finding the death of my great-grandfather Edmond - alive in 1901, it would appear still alive when my grandfather James got married in 1909 but dead by the time of the 1911 census. I have no idea of the date of Edmond's death and that is something I have been trying to track down for a long, long time. Any assistance with that would be very helpful indeed.
Again thank you for your interest.
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Are there any grave/cemetery details?
Perhaps the church may still have records :-\
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There may well be grave details listed at the local church but in all honesty the Ballyporeen parish priest wasn't particularly helpful in that regard in the past. I wondered if anybody knew if burial records for that area might be available online?
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I was thinking you might have details of the whereabouts of a family grave.
Is there a local Facebook site where someone might have local ideas?
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My grandfather James is buried in the graveyard of the parish church, Church of the Assumption in Ballyporeen. The only names on the headstone are James Barry, my grandmother and an uncle and an aunt. I do not know whether my great-grandfather Edmond and great-grandmother Johanna are buried in the same plot but I doubt it otherwise my father would have mentioned it I think.
I'm afraid I don't do Facebook, it's a strange inquisitive beast best avoided. But I'd still like to find out when Edmond died and where he is buried.