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Title: Grandma Burgess
Post by: 7Y on Saturday 10 October 20 18:28 BST (UK)
Could anyone please give an estimate as to when this photo may have been taken.  Sorry for the state of it, it's a photocopy, the only one I have.

Many thanks
Sally
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: Shaky120 on Saturday 10 October 20 21:06 BST (UK)
Lovely picture, thought i would try and improve it while i was bored. Afraid i can't help with date.
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 10 October 20 21:13 BST (UK)
I think it's possibly WW1 era or just after.

Gadget
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: tomkin on Saturday 10 October 20 22:33 BST (UK)

 I'd guess 1910/20 ???

             But a very quick tweak to compensate :D :D :D
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 10 October 20 22:41 BST (UK)
Further to my previous post #2 and tomkin's estimate,  here are a couple with similar clothing

1917
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~victorianphotographs/history/date/a1917.htm

1919
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~victorianphotographs/history/date/a1919.htm

No father present which does suggest 1914-1918

Gadget
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 10 October 20 23:13 BST (UK)
The war years would have been my guess too.
Carol
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: 7Y on Sunday 11 October 20 12:37 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for all your suggestions and enhanced photo’s, they really are lovely. 

Whilst it may look like the photo was taken in a ‘barn’, the striped background came from the photocopier rollers.  Photocopiers were fairly new when this was taken, so I’m not surprised it’s of poor quality compared with modern times.

I have to admit, I feel a little embarrassed now at asking questions I could have easily answered with a bit of effort.  Since posting, I have done a bit of research on this family branch, and have discovered the following.  The youngest child, sat on the girl’s knee, was born in January 1915, the little girl was born in January 1914, and the boy standing was born in May1912. 

As suggested, the Father would have been away (at war) when this was taken, as he never actually got to see his youngest son.  The Father was killed at the beginning of June 1915, making his youngest son five months old.  Now looking at the photo, I would say that the youngest is probably nearer one year old, but have to say, I’m not very good at guessing ages.  so I would say that the photo was taken after the Father’s death  - my next question is, who are the two older girls - they must have been included for a reason.

The Father of this group had four younger sisters, and I am wondering if the two girls were related to him, hence why they were included.  They are as follows. 

Ada  1891              -     24 at time of photo
Alice  1894           -     21 at time of photo
Gertrude  1897           -     18 at time of photo
Ann aka Annie  1906   -      9 at time of photo

Whilst the oldest girl seems to fit with Gertrude, aged 18, the one stood at the back looks to be a bit older than 9/10 say.

There are no females on Grandma Burgess’ side, so that rules that out. 

Any suggestions would be gratefully received, and many thanks again for your input and enhanced photo.

Sally
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: 7Y on Sunday 11 October 20 18:00 BST (UK)
I was wondering if I could call on your enhancement generosity one more time.  It's the same family, with a young version of Grandma Burgess, and the three children again.

With dates and certain facts now in place, I am wondering if the one of the children was taken when Grandma Burgess remarried in 1919 - I say this, as the children appear to be very dressed up, with the little girl carrying a flower basket.

Thank you in advance if you are able to help me.
Sally
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: tomkin on Monday 12 October 20 11:08 BST (UK)

 I'm doing a restore for you. You should always put a new request for a restore on to a new

   topic. I nearly didn't see this because I'd done a previous restore on this topic and only

    revisited by accident.   Other restorers may have also missed your new request.

     
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: tomkin on Monday 12 October 20 12:16 BST (UK)

 I could see that she was wearing a hat/bonnet?  but couldn't make it out so, at great expense

    I bought her a new one. :D :D  Couldn't make out any flowers and the flower shop was shut.

         So here is a B&W
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: tomkin on Monday 12 October 20 12:17 BST (UK)
  and a tint. Sorry I couldn't spend more time on them but I'm very busy at the moment.
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: 7Y on Monday 12 October 20 13:47 BST (UK)
Aw Tomkin, thank you so much for this photo, for the very first time I have been able to see what she really looked like - isn't she the loveliest little thing you have ever seen, and complete with a new hat.  I will truly treasure this.

I did upload another one, but I don't think the image appeared - its one with the kids all dressed up. I will try another upload on a new topic.

Again, thank you very much.

Sally
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 13 October 20 03:38 BST (UK)
Late try from me. :)
Peter
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: Wayne N on Tuesday 13 October 20 04:08 BST (UK)
tomkin, That is an amazing restoration of young grandma!
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 13 October 20 09:07 BST (UK)
A go at young grandma. :)
Peter
Title: Re: Grandma Burgess
Post by: 7Y on Tuesday 13 October 20 09:34 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter for your two restorations - I am very grateful to all who have contributed.

Waynenort - Your right regarding Tomkin's restoration, it really is amazing, and the more I look at it, the more detail I see.

Grandma Burgess was in fact Jessie Redgrave - it's a bit of a tangled story, which I may ask for help on in the future. 

Sally