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Title: Great Uncle or not
Post by: Kerrill on Friday 09 October 20 14:43 BST (UK)
Hi,
      many years ago my late uncle told me when he was a child a man  visited his mother in Galway and she told him it was her brother Patrick,  he told me that he walked with a limp and that when he left he said he was going to a town up north to look for work. Now nearly twenty years on I have a DNA match with a lady from the same town he was going to and she tells me her grandfather Patrick was from Galway and was injured in the 1WW  when I tracked his army records he was shot twice in the leg plus other injuries, now this is my question to all you experts........ our match comes up as     Shared DNA: 180 cM across 10 segments Unweighted shared DNA: 180 cM Longest segment: 37 cM  could it have been her brother or do you think she was not telling the truth ?. She was always told her granddad was a only child and I have yet to discover who my grans parents were.
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: midlandslass on Friday 09 October 20 14:58 BST (UK)
I vote yes, he was your great uncle  ;D
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: Romilly on Friday 09 October 20 15:07 BST (UK)

It sounds quite likely to me.

Do you have any shared matches between you? They might help you to be absolutely sure.

Romilly.
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: brigidmac on Friday 09 October 20 16:29 BST (UK)
I vote half great uncle
 can you find any records for his family ...maybe your greatgrandparents will turn up on one

If you share  great grandparents you are second cousins
Average level 233cm range 46-515

 if you have only one greatgrandparent in common it will look likeā third cousin match on painter chart 117 is given as the average level but range is 9-397

In my families  half great uncles and aunts neices and nephews are closer to the 120cm mark
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: Kerrill on Friday 09 October 20 19:36 BST (UK)
So sorry but,  my grandmother's mam is known as Mary (single on two census)  on my gran's wedding cert she has put her father down as Patrick  but on Patrick's wed cert (her brother) he has Michael down for his dad. Would it be possible that they had the same mother and different fathers ?
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: brigidmac on Friday 09 October 20 20:38 BST (UK)
Yes
 do you have any more information clues  .ages addresses

..names of witnesses profession etc

If you post names and dates people on.here know all sorts of ways to look . Which census years do.you have already ?
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: Kerrill on Friday 09 October 20 21:33 BST (UK)
The census for my great gran Mary Gavin address in 1901 and 1911 Galway/Cappalusk/ Ballygrany . are certain, also the wedding certs for both Patrick (Great Uncle) and Elizabeth (my gran) are also correct
 
 
   
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: Kerrill on Friday 09 October 20 21:37 BST (UK)
And This  one   
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: brigidmac on Friday 09 October 20 21:52 BST (UK)
Just to clarify

on the census where mary was single was her surname Gavin ... was she a single mother to Lizzie ?

 What was her birth year .?

 Have you looked for her on Ancestry or family search yet

# lizzie didnt give fathers proffession on marriage cert which points to maybe she wasnt brpught up with him so could have got first name wrong or he could have had both first names.
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: Kerrill on Friday 09 October 20 22:15 BST (UK)
Yes on both census she was single with Gavin as last name  so it looks like she could have been a  single mother . 1901 gives her age as 40 but 1911 is 55 I heard somewhere that they would say they were older so to get a pension so that could be the answer to the age difference.
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: brigidmac on Friday 09 October 20 22:17 BST (UK)
Im not very good at Iirish searches and ancestry is blocking me from looking up the census details for patrick.

But if you name the town uncle patrick went to maybe people on irish board could help more .
Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: brigidmac on Friday 09 October 20 22:23 BST (UK)
If mary was a single mother with maiden name Garvin then the name of lizzies father on birth certificate was probably invented .

You need to see her birth.certificate or baptism .

Title: Re: Great Uncle or not
Post by: Kerrill on Friday 09 October 20 22:58 BST (UK)
Yes I agree   :)