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Title: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Surtees on Thursday 08 October 20 16:19 BST (UK)
Please can a kind person sharpen this image for me please.

Thank you.
Ian
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Wayne N on Thursday 08 October 20 23:16 BST (UK)
Not sure what to do about the printing dots
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: McGroger on Friday 09 October 20 01:34 BST (UK)
My try. It's a bit of a compromise, sacrificing some detail to get rid of the lines.
Peter
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Wayne N on Friday 09 October 20 09:09 BST (UK)
Second attenpt and managed to get most of the newspaper stipple removed
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 09 October 20 10:24 BST (UK)
One from me
Pat
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 October 20 10:31 BST (UK)
In the olden days (i.e. 10 years or so ago) we used an FFT (fast fourier transform)  plugin filter to remove unwanted texture like this.  I've not go one anymore and can't seem to find one onlne. There must still be one available somewhere.

Found this

http://ft.rognemedia.no/

Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: japeflakes on Friday 09 October 20 11:13 BST (UK)
Just a quick try
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: arthurk on Friday 09 October 20 11:25 BST (UK)
One from me:
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: tomkin on Friday 09 October 20 11:54 BST (UK)

     Thanks for that Gadget, but I don't have Photoshop but interesting none the less.

    One from me
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 October 20 12:00 BST (UK)
I'm sure it works with Elements as well, tomkin. I read it somewhere when i was doing a search.

I might try it later.  I recall applying a grey mask over one of the channels and then brushing out the little white star type marks. Then, lo and behold, the nasty pattern would be gone (or almost). I think it was George who told Pels and me about it originally (not Sioras - forgotten his RC name*)

*miagre1

(I'll PM him and link to this thread - he's good at doing stuff like this. )
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: miagre1 on Friday 09 October 20 14:33 BST (UK)
Hello Gadget  :-* :-*

Thanks for this link and a wake up call  ;D

I've ran FFT over it and a bit of imagenomic noiseware.

There is a fair bit of jpegging on the original. "DEJPEG" might help  :-\

I have altered not levels/exposure, nor done any repairs.

FFT is available (for a small donation) from Charles at 4N6site.com

Best regards George
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: miagre1 on Friday 09 October 20 14:44 BST (UK)
PS

I had to pir borrow ::)  a copy of photoshop 7 in 32 bit as my CS6 running 64 bit would not have the 4N6 websites 8bf file.

George
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 October 20 15:18 BST (UK)
Thanks ever so, George.  :D

I'll have a go at your transformed version tonight as I've just had a grocery delivery and they seem to have given me doubles!!!

Why don't you come back and do the odd restore.

Gadget
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: miagre1 on Friday 09 October 20 15:20 BST (UK)
Desist from calling my restores odd.  ;)
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: hoobaloo on Friday 09 October 20 17:17 BST (UK)
A try from me, regards, John.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 October 20 17:27 BST (UK)
I've worked on the FFT version that George supplied but getting rid of the newsprint pattern has brought out the very severe jpeg artifacts.  I've used lots of normal type restoration tools and also put it through some aps/filters that I don't really like using.

Here's a small version with a skylight filter to give more depth.

Gadget
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 October 20 17:43 BST (UK)
Also a slightly larger version - removed as I don't like it at all!
 :-\
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: tomkin on Friday 09 October 20 18:00 BST (UK)

  nice work Gadget :D :D
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 October 20 18:16 BST (UK)
Thanks, Tomkin. You're being very kind  :)
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: McGroger on Friday 09 October 20 21:33 BST (UK)
Gadget, there's a free download called Image J which has an FFT filter: https://imagej.nih.gov/ij/download.html (https://imagej.nih.gov/ij/download.html)
It's not a plugin so you need to go from PSE to Image J and back again. I've only had limited success with about one in four tries giving a good result. Sometimes the FFT just doesn't work very well and sometimes there are other issues like the ones you've described. Anyway it works, sometimes...
Peter
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 October 20 21:49 BST (UK)
Thanks, Peter.  The one I linked to is also free. I've downloaded it but haven't put it in my PS plugin folder yet.

I used the file that George put up. It took a lot of work to get rid of the jpeg dotty mess!

 I have the latest PS CC so I'll see how or if it works any better  with this version.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 09 October 20 22:39 BST (UK)
That's a great result Gadget, nice one  :D
Carol
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: barryd on Saturday 10 October 20 04:55 BST (UK)

May be sold by now but here it is.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-88903913.html
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Monday 12 October 20 14:52 BST (UK)
Link to an easier method:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/removing-newsprint-pattern-from-photos/td-p/7645875?page=1

and quick result ~

(https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=838610.0;attach=519353;image)

No restoration done apart from removing pattern
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:36 BST (UK)
Ooh I remember  that Plug in too  Gadget ... anyway  had a fiddle and came up with a version  but  not that happy with it  either ...
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:41 BST (UK)
  And another one ... maybe slightly better  ???
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:41 BST (UK)
It's not a nice original, Poll. Those filters seem to work best on good scans and I think this one was originally on the Arkengarthdale website. It looks exactly the same. So how many image generations it's gone through, is anyone's guess.

You've made a good show of it though.

Hope you're keeping well - we're nearly in internment territory up here!
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 13 October 20 14:44 BST (UK)
You could try putting it through Remini. It seems to work on some of the images.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 13 October 20 15:06 BST (UK)
We were going to The Gower for a week but  we may have to cancel now...  ah well  there's plenty to do in the garden....grrrr. 
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale School c.1920
Post by: Surtees on Tuesday 13 October 20 21:26 BST (UK)
I am so very grateful to all who have helped with this difficult image.

Thank you for your time and kindness.