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Hi folks can someone clarify the workhouse entry rules.
Did you have to be from that parish to enter or did it not matter?
is it correct that before 1918 if you were in a workhouse you could not vote?
and if correct did that mean you were not on the voters list?
What documents would I be looking for re 1780 to 1800 birth that will name parents as I am still unable to find a birth record for Henry Hitchens only his word in 1851 Cheshire census and a co worker on his 1861 death. Me and 42 other tree re searcher's cannot find a birth to move forward.
Henry Hitchens born between 1780 and 1800 Knowsley, Lancashire: married 1825 Davenham, Cheshire children all Northwich and dies 1861 Cheshire workhouse accident.
Thanks Shona Ford nee Hitchens
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Have you considered Henry Hitchins born 1792 in Chester, parents Thomas & Ann Hitchins?
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Five pages about Henry and his origins in a previous thread (didn't read through it all to see everything already found)-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=828000.msg6920959#msg6920959
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one of my new relatives is looking at Thomas and Ann Hitchens from Chester I'm not convinced as he says Lancashire not Cheshire?
I have read though all the advice from my last thread sadly to no avail, The reason for the workhouse questions is the son Ralph was from Cheshire but died in the Manchester workhouse. I have looked at the Hitchens from Cornwall but been told we are not related and to far away so I am waiting on DNA results from Ancestry.
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Don't forget that the Workhouse usually had a hospital, and it may well be that these people died in the hospital rather than the workhouse itself.
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Hi folks can someone clarify the workhouse entry rules.
Did you have to be from that parish to enter or did it not matter?
Workhouse were under the control of Poor Law Unions which covered many parishes. See
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/unions/
Stan
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I wouldnt worry about cheshire/ lancashire descrepencies .sometimes people were baptised in neighbouring villages also border lines did.change I always look for my relatives in both counties
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Representation of the People Act 1918
https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/electionsvoting/womenvote/case-study-the-right-to-vote/the-right-to-vote/birmingham-and-the-equal-franchise/1918-representation-of-the-people-act/
1918 Briefly the summary suggests
Women still had to be over 30 and have a property qualification to vote.
All Men over 21 had the right to vote from 1918.
is it correct that before 1918 if you were in a workhouse you could not vote?
and if correct did that mean you were not on the voters list?
Two hundred years ago, records of Selby, Yorkshire, indicate that if you were able to look after yourself or had relatives looking after you, you would usually get a Parish Out Pension at their pension age (Out Pension meaning, you were not living in the Workhouse).
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So Workhouses probably took the In-Pensioners.
If not old enough to be a Pensioner, those in the Workhouse must have
i) likely needed physical and/or mental support, or
ii) taken in to the Workhouse Infirmary when suddenly becoming temporarily unwell
(Some of these might not be on Poor Relief, but on their own and just needed looking after until getting better and going home).
Entering and Leaving the Workhouse
"It also carried with it a change in legal status — until 1918, receipt of poor relief meant a loss of the right to vote."
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/life/entry.shtml
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The Selby Poor or Pauper usually got Parish Relief, some living at home.
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Check the Voters Roll or Electoral Register?
Bear in mind a 'qualifying property' to vote might not be a residence they once lived at, but could be at another place in the country, even unknown to you.
Mark