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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: Kandi Burns on Wednesday 07 October 20 06:16 BST (UK)
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Hello I am hoping if i could please get some assistance with some information on my 5th great grandmother all i know is that she was born in Pennsylvania united states in the circa 1765 and died in Ohio united states circa 1851. I know this is an old one but im hoping that their is someone out their that can help.
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Do you know her husbands name and maybe we can find them 1850 census
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Where in Ohio did she live?
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Can you also please post everything you know about all her spouse and children? - where and when they were born, married, and died. and to whom they were married.
This might help trace her backward. For example, if some of the children were born in PA and others in OH, then at least we would know when she left PA. Also some of the children's records might mention their specific place of birth. Even the grandchildren's records might have that information.
If she married in Ohio, where? Her parents would probably be in the area.
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This is every inch of information that i know about my 5th great grandmother.
In 1789 when she was around the age of 24 she gave birth to a child on the 20th september 1789 in Kemback, fife, Scotland united states child was margaret barclay 1789-1878. Then when was around 29 had another child william barclay 1794-1855 in Pennsylvania. In 1799 at around the age of 34 had another child John Barclay 1799-1865 in Perry Pennsylvannia United States. In 1802 at the age of around 37 on July 8th 1802 had another child in Pennsylvannia had another child James A Barclay 1802-1864. At the age of around 40 in 1805 in Perry Pennsylvannia, PA, usa Martha Barclay was born 1805-1881 then at the age of around 41 had another child Andrew Barclay 1806-1872 In Perry, PA,usa. At the age of 64 in 1829 in April she lost her spouse William Barclay 1769-1829 at Saville, Perry PA, usa.
At the age of 86 in 1851 on the 9th of october in Tuscarawas, Warwick Township, Tuscarawas Ohio United States my 5th great grandmother passed away.
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William Barkley/Barclay wrote his will 7 February 1829 probated 6 April 1829 Perry County PA.
He was a Yeoman.
Paraphrased
To his wife Martha 2 cows 6 sheep plus 1/3 of the hay, an allowance for the rest of her life, household and kitchen utensils, and she can live in the Mansion House if she wishes.
Son John gets the house and most of the land and he must pay the bequests and allowance to his mother.
Son Andrew 50 acres in Liberty Valley next to John Black's heirs 1 bed and 4 sheep.
Daughter Margaret (intermarried?) with Jonathan English 50 acres, 1 bed, 1 cow? and 4 sheep. Son William 50 acres and one dollar.
Son James 50 acres and one dollar.
Daughter Nancy 1 bed 1 cow and 4 sheep.
Daughter Martha $50 to be paid out of his estate, 1 bed, 1 cow and 4 sheep.
Executors are his son John Barkley and his son in law Samuel English.
Witness' are William English and John Bard
Son in law may mean the brother of his daughter Margaret's husband Jonathan English, and not as we use it today.
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Here is the christening of Margaret Barclay 20th September 1789, Kemback, Fife, Scotland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYCT-429
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This is every inch of information that i know about my 5th great grandmother.
Thank you very much, that should help. Do you know where William Barclay (1769- c April 6, 1829) was born? If in Pennsylvania, then I can't see them going back to Scotland for the birth of one child. See next post.
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Here is the christening of Margaret Barclay 20th September 1789, Kemback, Fife, Scotland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYCT-429
That baptism was in Kemback, Fife, Scotland. Is it the same as this one? I don't know enough about the area to tell. If so, then it is not the daughter of Martha Smith and William Barclay.
baptized 20 Sep 1789, Cere Associate Congregation, Ceres, Fife, Scotland
Margaret Barclay, daughter of William and Ann (Pearson) Barclay
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY9G-4FD
and familysearch also has a baptism of Ann Barclay, daughter of William and Ann (Pearson) Barclay, same place, 17 April 1791.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY9G-Y38
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Or were there enough Barclays in the area that it could be a coincidence, and are Fife and Ceres far enough apart to rule out them being the same child?
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The two places are close and could be two different records of the same event.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/FIF/Ceres
I was just wondering where the birth information came from as Kandi writes,
‘ In 1789 when she was around the age of 24 she gave birth to a child on the 20th september 1789 in Kemback, fife, Scotland united states child was margaret barclay 1789-1878’
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The two places are close and could be two different records of the same event.
Thank you.
In William's will he mentions daughter Nancy Barkley. She was born about 1788 in Perry County, PA.
Miss Nancy Barkley, age 65, born in Perry County, PA
died 11 November 1853, in Saville Twp, Perry County, PA
parents: William Barkley and Martha Barkley
unmarried, no living issue
buried: Stone Church [Burial Ground?]
source: Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Deaths, 1852-1854
and the next child after Margaret, William, was born 1794 in Pennsylvania. So it doesn't look like the family was in Scotland for the birth of their second child [Margaret]
edited: at this point we don't know when Margaret Barclay, wife of Jonathan English, was born.
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Is this her in 1850 but husband is Samuel (William’s Will refers to son in law, Samuel)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4CC-QXV
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Is this her in 1850 but husband is Samuel (William’s Will refers to son in law, Samuel)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4CC-QXV
I didn't find a Jonathan English to match, so it could be.
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There is this transcribed record, no image.
U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
at ancestry.com
Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE
Name: Samuel English
Gender: Male
Birth Place: PA
Birth Year: 1796
Spouse Name: Margaret Barkley
Spouse Birth Place: PA
Spouse Birth Year: 1823
Marriage State: of PA
If the "Spouse Birth Year" is actually the marriage year, it would fit with that 1850 census. And with:
1840, Saville Twp for Samuel English
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHY2-FXX
and it fits with this one for a Samuel English also, but Juniata Twp is 60 to 70 miles west of Saville Twp. I'll post it anyway.
1830 Juniata Twp, Perry County
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH59-5S9
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At any rate, daughter Margaret was very likely born in PA, not Scotland.
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I think this is talking about the Battle of Chippewa, July 5, 1814. You'd have to read the context to be sure, I just skimmed it.
Those from within the confines of what is now Perry County who served there, are as follows:
Captain David Moreland's Company.
Privates:
Barkley, William, Saville
Source: History of Perry County, Pennsylvania, including descriptions of Indians and pioneer life from the time of earliest settlement by Hain, Harry Harrison, (Harrisburg, PA: Hain-Moore Company, 1922), page 178
https://archive.org/details/historyofperryco00hain/mode/2up
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This book says that this William Barkley died in 1859, so he must be Martha Smith's son, now her husband.
History of Perry County from the earliest settlement to the present time, (Lancaster,Pa: Wylie & Griest, 1873)
http://archive.org/details/cu31924028854516
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Perry County was formed from Cumberland County Aug 31, 1820, so earlier records, probably including the 1820 census, would be in Cumberland county. The census was [supposed to be] as of August 7.
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most of the information that i had came from a site called familysearch in Australia
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1790 Census "Eastern part of Cumberland County" PA
William Barkley
1 male over 16
2 males under 16
3 females
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHKJ-GQ1
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1800 Census, Tyrone, Cumberland County, PA
Wm Barckley
2 males under 10
1 male 26 to 45
1 female under 10
1 female 10 to 16
1 female 26 to 45
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRD-PWC
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1810 Census, Tyrone, Cumberland County, PA
[indexed as Barelay at familysearch.org]
William Barclay
2 males 0 to 9
1 male 10 to 15
1 male 16 to 25
1 male over 45
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1 female 0 to 9
1 female 10 to 15
1 female 16 to 25
1 female 26 to 44
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH2K-YY6
1 male 0 to 9 not on later records. did he die before 1820?
they moved between 1810 and 1820
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1820 Census, Saville Township, Perry County
William Barkley, Sr
1 male 10 to 16
0 males 16 to 18
2 males 16 to 26
1 male above 45
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0
1 female 10 to 16
1 female 16 to 26
1 female 26 to 45
1 female above 45
2 persons engaged in agriculture
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHGX-ZSQ
[note Saville Twp. was enumerated in the new county, Perry County, in 1820]
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Kandi,
It looks as though that christening is not your Margaret.
Do you have marriage details for William and Martha? Was Martha (she is the one you are searching) definitely Martha Smith?
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Kandi,
It looks as though that christening is not your Margaret.
Do you have marriage details for William and Martha? Was Martha (she is the one you are searching) definitely Martha Smith?
Yes it is Martha Smith I am searching as she came up with as she came up when i was searching Archibald Campbell 10th earl of Argyll & James Stuart 2nd Earl of Bute i have their history as its all in the campbell clan site. but Only the information I provided earlier is all i Had a Martha Smith
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It's possible Jonathan English died and Margaret married his brother Samuel.
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Martha (Smith) Barkley in 1830, listed right after son John, who got the house and land. She got rights to live in the house:
1830 Census Saville Township, Perry County
John Barkley
1 male 30 to 39
1 female 20 to 29
Martha Barkley
1 female 20 to 29
1 female 60 to 69
next name, a Smith in-law maybe:
Margaret Smith, 1 female 40 to 49, 3 younger females, 1 male 10 to 15
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH59-5CN
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Daughter Martha's will:
Pennsylvania Wills, Perry County
Martha Barkly, of Ickesburg, Saville Twp, page 53
written 9 Oct 1880
died 3 March 1881
probate starts 7 March 1881
to Martha Ann Klinepeter $50
to Presbyterian Church, Ickesburg, $50
to Margaret English (crippled girl) best bed, and balance of the money
John A Barnes, executor
witnesses C C DeLancy, Kate J Bower
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Daughter Martha in 1880, note father's birth place
1880 Census Ickesburg, Perry Co
June 18, 1880
Martha Barkley, 75, single, keeping house, born in Pennsylvania, father in Ireland, mother in Pennsylvania
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWN1-T55
That doesn't mean for sure that he was born in Ireland. That would depend on how well Martha knew the facts and remembered them. But it at least gives a big hint as to his heritage.
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Martha (Smith) Barclay's son Andrew was in Tuscarora Twp, Juniata Co, Pennsylvania, in 1860. Could that be where she died, and not Tuscarawas County, Ohio? They sound the same. Or do you know for sure she had a child in Tuscarawas Co, Ohio? Or other solid information.
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for Smith in "Eastern part of Cumberland County" PA in 1790:
I found 12 on the first 3 pages of that section and then quit looking. Martha's parents will have to be found some other way. - And there is no information yet that says that she met and married William Barclay in the area where they later lived. They could have come from elsewhere.
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Martha's son William was alive 9 May 1869 when he signed this application for a pension based on his participation in the War of 1812.
in Huntingdon County
9 May 1869
William Barkley, enlisted at Carlisle, Cumberland County, on or about 28 February 1814. served as a private in a company commanded by David Moreland and attached to a regiment commanded by Col James Fenton. served 6 months. honorably discharged 28 August 1814. was then and is now a citizen of Pennsylvania.
signed William Barkley, Post Office Shirleysburg, Huntingdon County, PA. witness: George P Wakefield
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an index record to his pension files says his wife's name was Jane:
War of 1812
WO 9552
William Barkley
widow: Jane Barkley
service: Captain D Mooreland Co., Pa Militia
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His son Robert's death certificate, Dec 31, 1912, Shirley Twp, Huntingdon Co, says parents: William Barkley, born Perry County, Jane Piper, born Pennsylvania
informant: someone in Shirleysburg
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This is Martha's son William, in Shirley Twp, Huntingdon Co, PA in 1870.
1870 Census, Shirley, Huntingdon Co
William Barkley, 76, born in Pennsylvania, laborer, father foreign born
Jane, 73, both parents foreign born
Nancy 35, Elizabeth 32, Robert 30, James 15, Amanda 10
Margaret 9, Robert 8, George 5
all born in Pennsylvania
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZPC-KW3
note that he says his father was foreign born. His sister Martha's info in 1880 said her father was born in Ireland. So it looks more like William Barclay (c1794 - 1829) was born in Ireland.
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I didn't find Martha (Smith) Barkley in 1840. Nor her daughter Martha, nor her son William. I found the other children in 1840 and 1850 and Martha Smith is not with any of them. It's possible she died between 1830, when she is on the census next to her son John, and 1840, when John is listed close to Samuel (and Margaret) English, but no sign of Martha Smith.