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Title: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 16:11 BST (UK)
Here is another unknown building that I would like to put a name to. It feels familiar to me but I don't know whether that is because of the times that I have looked at it.
Thanks for looking.
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: barryd on Saturday 03 October 20 16:26 BST (UK)
Someone who can afford more than one gardener.

Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Girl Guide on Saturday 03 October 20 16:45 BST (UK)
The chimney pots are rather like those at Hampton Court and the roof looks decorative.

Could be anywhere couldn't it  ::)
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 16:48 BST (UK)
Yes the pots are unusual aren't they. It could, you are right!
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Erato on Saturday 03 October 20 17:38 BST (UK)
Toad of Toad Hall.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: barryd on Saturday 03 October 20 17:45 BST (UK)
What are the (2?) arches on the bottom left. Too small for a garage?
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 18:06 BST (UK)
Toad of Toad Hall.

I'll take that  ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 18:11 BST (UK)
What are the (2?) arches on the bottom left. Too small for a garage?

Not sure...can't see them well enough but the property is in an elevated basement?
 Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Girl Guide on Saturday 03 October 20 18:17 BST (UK)
Could they be the entrance to the front door depending on whether you go up the steps on the right or along the path? on the left?
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: BushInn1746 on Saturday 03 October 20 18:19 BST (UK)
The two arches possibly go into a porch?

What is on the inset stone?

Can you scan this part of the image, from the original photo at 300/400 to 600 dpi?

Mark
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Jool on Saturday 03 October 20 18:28 BST (UK)
There appears to be 2 plaques on the wall between the two arches, they could have something engraved on them, or maybe just ornamental.  Can you get a better scan of them Carol.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: JenB on Saturday 03 October 20 18:28 BST (UK)
It feels familiar to me

Carol, surely it's perfectly obvious that it's 'Cazza's House' before it was 'remodelled'  ;D https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=727464.msg5719123#msg5719123
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: oldfashionedgirl on Saturday 03 October 20 18:33 BST (UK)
It has an ‘Arts and Craft’ period feel about it.
Similar to Blackwell in the Lake District.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 18:59 BST (UK)
The two arches possibly go into a porch?

What is on the inset stone?

Can you scan this part of the image, from the original photo at 300/400 to 600 dpi?

Mark

 It's a number Mark, either 1 or 4 I will scan tomorrow.

Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 19:01 BST (UK)
There appears to be 2 plaques on the wall between the two arches, they could have something engraved on them, or maybe just ornamental.  Can you get a better scan of them Carol.

It's a number Jool...I can't scan until tomorrow though  ::)
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 19:02 BST (UK)
It has an ‘Arts and Craft’ period feel about it.
Similar to Blackwell in the Lake District.

Funny that you should say that as I bought it in Grasmere two weeks ago  ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 19:02 BST (UK)
Thanks to you all for joining in the search, it is much appreciated  :-*
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: arthurk on Saturday 03 October 20 19:29 BST (UK)
There appears to be 2 plaques on the wall between the two arches, they could have something engraved on them, or maybe just ornamental.  Can you get a better scan of them Carol.

Or are they the sloping top of a buttress? A zoomed-in scan would probably clarify.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: barryd on Saturday 03 October 20 19:34 BST (UK)
Blackwell

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g190820-d2056321-Reviews-Blackwell_The_Arts_Crafts_House-Bowness_on_Windermere_Lake_District_Cumbria_Engla.html#photos;aggregationId=101&albumid=101&filter=7&ff=279342402
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Colin Cruddace on Saturday 03 October 20 20:14 BST (UK)
Hi all, could the design set in the brickwork over the windows be a representation of a Masonic symbol?

Colin
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 23:00 BST (UK)
It feels familiar to me

Carol, surely it's perfectly obvious that it's 'Cazza's House' before it was 'remodelled'  ;D https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=727464.msg5719123#msg5719123

Who knows Jen....it's anybody's guess  ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 03 October 20 23:01 BST (UK)
I don't see any Masonic symbols Colin...but one never knows.
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 October 20 14:07 BST (UK)
Scanned the "Plaque" but not very clear and it appears to be a recess  ... ::)
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Sunday 04 October 20 14:27 BST (UK)
Definitely not Blackwell. but looks like the same vintage.
Probably not in the Lake District, as Arts and Crafts houses here usually have slate roofs rather than tiled.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 October 20 14:36 BST (UK)
Nice to have "Local Lad" on the case, thanks for your observations Mike...much appreciated.
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Sunday 04 October 20 14:40 BST (UK)
Nice to have "Local Lad" on the case, thanks for your observations Mike...much appreciated.
Carol
Now I'm just waiting for the house to be identified as sitting on the edge of Windermere!
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: JenB on Sunday 04 October 20 14:42 BST (UK)
Nice to have "Local Lad" on the case, thanks for your observations Mike...much appreciated.
Carol
Now I'm just waiting for the house to be identified as sitting on the edge of Windermere!

Mike, in your heart you know it's in North Wales  :-X
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 October 20 15:03 BST (UK)
Nice to have "Local Lad" on the case, thanks for your observations Mike...much appreciated.
Carol
Now I'm just waiting for the house to be identified as sitting on the edge of Windermere!


A Residential Home/ Nursing Home Perhaps  :P ;D ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 October 20 15:06 BST (UK)
Nice to have "Local Lad" on the case, thanks for your observations Mike...much appreciated.
Carol
Now I'm just waiting for the house to be identified as sitting on the edge of Windermere!

Mike, in your heart you know it's in North Wales  :-X

Just spotted this... ;D ;D ;D

Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Sunday 04 October 20 15:07 BST (UK)
Nice to have "Local Lad" on the case, thanks for your observations Mike...much appreciated.
Carol
Now I'm just waiting for the house to be identified as sitting on the edge of Windermere!

Mike, in your heart you know it's in North Wales  :-X
We all know that, really.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: JenB on Sunday 04 October 20 15:12 BST (UK)
Nice to have "Local Lad" on the case, thanks for your observations Mike...much appreciated.
Carol
Now I'm just waiting for the house to be identified as sitting on the edge of Windermere!

Mike, in your heart you know it's in North Wales  :-X
We all know that, really.

That thread is now 5 years old......it just seems like yesterday  :-X

Sorry Carol, I'm going off topic  :-[
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 October 20 16:22 BST (UK)
I'm off in search of ornate chimney pots...I may be some time  ::) ;D ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: BushInn1746 on Sunday 04 October 20 20:25 BST (UK)
I'm off in search of ornate chimney pots...I may be some time  ::) ;D ;D
Carol

Hello Carol

The main cylindrical part of the flue to the left chimney (twin chimneys R/H end of building) is a "Barley Twist" pattern chimney.

Mark
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 October 20 22:24 BST (UK)
Cheers Mark.....I may have to scan the chimneys and try a Google match.
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: barryd on Monday 05 October 20 02:01 BST (UK)
Barley Twist Chimneys

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=barley+twist+chimney&qpvt=Barley+Twist+Chimney&form=IQFRML&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: BushInn1746 on Monday 05 October 20 11:39 BST (UK)
I'm off in search of ornate chimney pots...I may be some time  ::) ;D ;D
Carol

Hello Carol

The main cylindrical part of the flue to the left chimney (twin chimneys R/H end of building) is a "Barley Twist" pattern chimney.

Mark

Hello Carol

All these cylindrical chimney flue patterns should have an exact name (some may have a variant name by Manufacturer too). Even the chimney top/crown will have likely been chosen from a named pattern book, for the bricklayer to follow, or builder to buy.

One design has Chevrons, but there will be several Chevron chimney patterns too (plus other joined Chevron designs).

Perhaps you could try emailing Red Bank your photo for pattern names? ...
https://www.forterra.co.uk/chimneys-roofing-flue-systems/bespoke-clayware

Mark
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 05 October 20 13:13 BST (UK)
Thanks Mark for your interest and for taking the time to look, it's much appreciated. will investigate further when I have the time.
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 October 20 13:47 BST (UK)
I may have missed it on this thread but is there a name for the way the roof tiles are laid  :-\. 
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 05 October 20 13:50 BST (UK)
It's not been mentioned so Rosie.
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Jool on Monday 05 October 20 14:50 BST (UK)
I may have missed it on this thread but is there a name for the way the roof tiles are laid  :-\.

Hi Rosie, I did a bit of googling on the tiles the other day and found some information here...
https://www.tudorrooftiles.co.uk/products.html
https://www.tudorrooftiles.co.uk/blogs/blogs1.html#gsc.tab=0
http://theheritagedirectory.co.uk/product.asp?prodid=59

Even with this knowledge I am still no closer to finding Carol's mystery house  ::)
Still looking  ;D
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 05 October 20 15:25 BST (UK)
Wow!...How many different types of tiles? I have been looking on and off, between packing 30 years of accumulated clutter as we have sold the house and bought a bungalow, but...3 into 2 won't go  ::)
Onwards and upwards  ;D
Anyone want a Treadle Singer sewing machine, serial number 1906, currently being used as a telephone table  ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Jool on Monday 05 October 20 15:42 BST (UK)
Carol, I love those old Singer treadle sewing machines.  I was offered one by a friend years ago but I didn't have the room for it (still don't).  Good luck with the house move, I know it can be stressful.

We will understand if you "go missing" for a while, I'm sure you are very busy.  :)
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 October 20 15:46 BST (UK)
Thank you Jool, I see what you mean  :)

Carol it is good to hear that you have sold your house,  it is nice to have some sort of normality.  Hope all goes well with your move.

My mother replaced her treadle Singer with a newer model and always regretted it.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 05 October 20 15:52 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie and Jool, I will have to part with it, unwillingly  ::)
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 05 October 20 17:16 BST (UK)
Thanks for posting, Happy memories  :)
We do become attached to these things don't we, I remember Mum's used to go really fast and always smoothly.  My 1970's machine (not Singer) although it had all sorts of attachments never ran as well as that old Singer.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: radstockjeff on Monday 05 October 20 17:58 BST (UK)
Just a thought on the tiles FWIW. Late Victorian ...roofs in this period were often patterned either with different coloured machine made tiles ; sometimes referred to as geometirc or mathematical tiles. Sometimes capped with terracotta decorative ridge tiles.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: BrazilianBombshell on Monday 05 October 20 22:22 BST (UK)
The style and shape of the house looks similar to Lady Wimborne cottages in and around Wimborne, Dorset probably late Victorian,  however the chimneys look more like Elizabethan.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 05 October 20 22:31 BST (UK)
Thanks for your interest and your input Jeff and BB, you learn something new every day on here  ;D
I have a feeling that this one will remain a mystery  ::)
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: BushInn1746 on Monday 05 October 20 23:26 BST (UK)
Carol

Looking closer one doesn't look like a chevron. One spiral goes one way around and the other spiral the other way around to cross over, giving a diamond.

"chimney pots & gas flue terminals - Flues & Chimneys" [Google listing]
"Red_Bank_chimney_pots.pdf" [title of pdf] by Hanson Building Products April 2007

Link direct to pdf
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwil4f7Hu57sAhXQWhUIHRzSCF0QFjAPegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fflueandchimney.co.uk%2Fimages%2FRed_Bank_chimney_pots.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0U2Qr78S5Q1DStlx9ydG1K

Page 20
However, we had more detailed older brochures when I was a Buyer.

Mark
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 06 October 20 20:44 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Mark....I think this one will remain a mystery....maybe it has changed beyond recognition.
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 10 October 20 15:26 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to search for this, I really appreciate it. I think this one will forever remain a mystery :-\
But....you never know  ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: trish18 on Saturday 23 July 22 21:39 BST (UK)
I know this is an old post and not sure if Carol ever discovered the location?
It appears to be Nettleden House, Nettleden Road, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire.
Built in 1856, the good news is it's still standing!

https://tinyurl.com/ymb8w78p (scroll to page 15)
https://tinyurl.com/3mhbdfvh
https://tinyurl.com/5e7hffm6
https://tinyurl.com/bddkfff8

Trish


Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Saturday 23 July 22 22:00 BST (UK)
I know this is an old post and not sure if Carol ever discovered the location?
It appears to be Nettleden House, Nettleden Road, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire.
Built in 1856, the good news is it's still standing!

https://tinyurl.com/ymb8w78p (scroll to page 15)
https://tinyurl.com/3mhbdfvh
https://tinyurl.com/5e7hffm6
https://tinyurl.com/bddkfff8

Trish

Trish strikes again!
Amazing.
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 24 July 22 05:34 BST (UK)
Amazing Trish! Well done!  ;D

How on earth did you find it?

Please please please solve this one:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=727464.msg5719123#msg5719123
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Sunday 24 July 22 08:26 BST (UK)
Amazing Trish! Well done!  ;D

How on earth did you find it?

Please please please solve this one:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=727464.msg5719123#msg5719123
I don't even need to click on that link to know which one it is!
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: JenB on Sunday 24 July 22 08:43 BST (UK)
Amazing Trish! Well done!  ;D

How on earth did you find it?

Please please please solve this one:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=727464.msg5719123#msg5719123
I don't even need to click on that link to know which one it is!

Happy days  :-X
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 24 July 22 10:18 BST (UK)
Amazing Trish! Well done!  ;D

How on earth did you find it?
 
Please please please solve this one:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=727464.msg5719123#msg5719123
I don't even need to click on that link to know which one it is!

I know you don’t.  ;D

I’ve been trawling through that thread again. Sadly most of the links that people added don’t work any more.

What frustrating fun it was.  ;D

Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: JenB on Sunday 24 July 22 10:30 BST (UK)
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frustrating fun

Other descriptions also spring to mind  :-X
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 24 July 22 10:41 BST (UK)
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frustrating fun

Other descriptions also spring to mind  :-X

 ;D
Title: Re: Who Lived in a House Like This?
Post by: arthurk on Sunday 24 July 22 13:45 BST (UK)
Brilliant  :) :) :) 8) 8) 8)