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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Stu43 on Friday 25 September 20 08:39 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am looking for some help re my 4xgreat grandfather, Robert Turner, a miller from Hyndford, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Research by my late uncle in the 1960s had him as 1750-1796, when he died doing a brave deed at the celebrations after the naval Battle Of Camperdown (off Netherlands). This battle happened in Oct 1797!
I can’t find birth or death records for him for these dates on SP.
I have him marrying Marion (Mary) Cleland on 25/11/1773 at Pettinain, Lanarkshire. They had 11 children together.
I have found a Robert Turner b 12 Aug 1773 in Lanarkshire. From that his parents would be Archibald Turner and Margaret Wallace.
Any ideas or assistance would be much appreciated. It’s another brick wall for me just now.
Stuart
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I am confused by what you say.
If he was married in 1773, he cannot also have been born in 1773.
What were the names of his children, in order of birth, and who were the parents of Marion/Mary Cleland?
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All on https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - I guess the 1773 birth and the death is wrong.
ROBERT TURNER married MARY CLELAND 25/11/1773 Pettinain, Lanarkshire
Children of ROBERT TURNER/MARION CLELAND = Lanark
AGNES 6/11/1774, JAMES 16/02/1777, CHRISTIAN 31/01/1779, ROBERT 29/10/1780
JANET 13/04/1783, WILLIAM 10/12/1786, JOSEPH 23/12/1792, ELIZABETH 26/07/1795.
Colin
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Oops, sorry, a typo! It should read 1733.
The children are:
Agnes 1773-1774
James 1777-1777
Christian 1779-1850
Robert 1780-1849
Janet 1783-1871
Marion 1785-
William 1786-
Margaret 1788-
Mary 1791-
Joseph 1792-1861
Elizabeth 1795-1875.
Marion/Mary Cleland’s parents are Thomas Cleland (1728-?) and Anna Lowdoun (1730-?)
Sorry for confusing things
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Marion/Mary Cleland or Turner is 13 May 1750 - ?
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The only birth I see for Mary n Scotland on SP in that year is below, where did your record come from?
CLELAND MARY GEORGE CLELAND/KATHARIN SMITH 06/05/1750 Eastwood
Colin
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Given the names of his children, the Robert Turner born 1738 in Heriot to parents James Turner and Christian Crombie might be worth considering.
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Although about 25 miles from Pettain, I would have thought this was a better match for Robert but more research will be required.
ROBERT TURNER - JAMES TURNER/CHRISTIAN CROMBIE 29/10/1738 Heriot
Colin
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Do any of those 11 children have a second / middle name?
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Hi Colin,
Marion Cleland’s birth notice is on Scotland’s People,
27/05/1750 CLELAND, MARION (Old Parish Registers Births 625/ 10 277 Bothwell) Page 277 of 542
Cheers,
Stuart
The only birth I see for Mary n Scotland on SP in that year is below, where did your record come from?
CLELAND MARY GEORGE CLELAND/KATHARIN SMITH 06/05/1750 Eastwood
Colin
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Neale,
No, they don’t.
Cheers,
Stuart
Do any of those 11 children have a second / middle name?
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Hi Colin,
Thanks for that suggestion. Much appreciated. I will check it out.
Thanks,
Stuart
Although about 25 miles from Pettain, I would have thought this was a better match for Robert but more research will be required.
ROBERT TURNER - JAMES TURNER/CHRISTIAN CROMBIE 29/10/1738 Heriot
Colin
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Hi Colin,
Marion Cleland’s birth notice is on Scotland’s People,
27/05/1750 CLELAND, MARION (Old Parish Registers Births 625/ 10 277 Bothwell) Page 277 of 542
I see the record you mention.
MARION CLELAND 27/05/1750 Bothwell
THOMAS CLELAND/ANNA LOWDOUN
Was the date you posted (13 May 1750) her birth on the record
Colin
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Yes. The 27th was when she was baptised
Hi Colin,
Marion Cleland’s birth notice is on Scotland’s People,
27/05/1750 CLELAND, MARION (Old Parish Registers Births 625/ 10 277 Bothwell) Page 277 of 542
I see the record you mention.
MARION CLELAND 27/05/1750 Bothwell
THOMAS CLELAND/ANNA LOWDOUN
Was the date you posted (13 May 1750) her birth on the record
Colin