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Title: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Sunday 20 September 20 13:16 BST (UK)
Please would someone be able to date this photo. It was taken outside Arkengarthdale Chapel in the Dales of North Yorkshire. My interest here is the “Hird” family, several of which are named in the photo. In particular, front row, 3rd from left is “Nellie Hird”. I am wondering if it is the same “Nellie Hird” who was born in 1891. I thought the photo looked older than for someone born that year.
If It’s not her then it would be another Nellie Hird in the same family, maybe a previous generation.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: Trishanne on Monday 21 September 20 09:53 BST (UK)
Very difficult to date as they are all in fancy dress, but bumping the photo up to see if anybody can help.
Pat
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: jim1 on Monday 21 September 20 13:08 BST (UK)
I would assume that some of these costumes have been adapted from contemporary
outfits as I doubt they would have the money to buy or make them specially for the
production.
So on that basis I would suggest 1880's-90's.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Monday 21 September 20 15:16 BST (UK)
I would assume that some of these costumes have been adapted from contemporary
outfits as I doubt they would have the money to buy or make them specially for the
production.
So on that basis I would suggest 1880's-90's.

Thank you Jim for your reply. It’s certainly practical way of looking at it.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Monday 21 September 20 15:18 BST (UK)
Very difficult to date as they are all in fancy dress, but bumping the photo up to see if anybody can help.
Pat

Yes it does make it difficult, I don’t suppose that is a real minister either.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 21 September 20 15:31 BST (UK)
Woman holding baby had an unusual expanse of leg on show. She was wearing shoes with narrow toes. The people may have been wearing their own shoes.
Impressive facial foliage on some of the men.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Monday 21 September 20 20:44 BST (UK)
Woman holding baby had an unusual expanse of leg on show. She was wearing shoes with narrow toes. The people may have been wearing their own shoes.
Impressive facial foliage on some of the men.

I was wondering about the facial hair. Thinking at least one of them had a false beard.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: jim1 on Monday 21 September 20 20:57 BST (UK)
Certainly the woman has.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: Henry7 on Monday 21 September 20 21:00 BST (UK)
To me it looks like the cast of a period play, maybe taken as late as the 1930s.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Monday 21 September 20 22:23 BST (UK)
Certainly the woman has.
Do you mean there is a lady with a beard?
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: matthewj64 on Tuesday 22 September 20 00:58 BST (UK)
Certainly the woman has.
Do you mean there is a lady with a beard?

I can see two, both seated

M
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 22 September 20 01:14 BST (UK)
To me it looks like the cast of a period play, maybe taken as late as the 1930s.
I thought the "mother's" shoes were 20th century. Must add that my knowledge of women's footwear isn't vast.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: Neale1961 on Tuesday 22 September 20 02:00 BST (UK)
There are 2 seated with fake beards, but from the way they are sitting, I think they are both men.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: barryd on Tuesday 22 September 20 03:10 BST (UK)
"Yes it does make it difficult, I don’t suppose that is a real minister either".

No I am suggesting that it is the real minister. Dressing up as a minister, (especially when one would be available and who has been told about the gathering) would have taken things too far.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: barryd on Tuesday 22 September 20 03:22 BST (UK)
Myself and my trusty magnifying glass cannot see any women with fake beards!
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Tuesday 22 September 20 08:27 BST (UK)
There are 2 seated with fake beards, but from the way they are sitting, I think they are both men.

I think you are right about them being men with fake beards as there are some names on the photo. Front row, from left, 2nd is an Ernest and 6th is a George.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Tuesday 22 September 20 08:37 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your contribution. I think we can safely concur this is a 20th century photo.
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 25 September 20 23:03 BST (UK)
The lady holding the baby appears to be wearing shoes and pale stockings that were popular in the 1920s.
Carol
Title: Re: Arkengarthdale Chapel photo date please
Post by: SUSANHORTON on Saturday 26 September 20 08:29 BST (UK)
The lady holding the baby appears to be wearing shoes and pale stockings that were popular in the 1920s.
Carol

Thank you