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Title: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: markheal on Friday 18 September 20 14:30 BST (UK)
I have found Maker Heights but no trace of DIGLAND,
Any ideas?
https://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=243477&y=51362&z=115&sv=243477,51362&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=631&ax=243477&ay=51362&lm=0

Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: cath151 on Friday 18 September 20 16:39 BST (UK)
Hi,
Probably not relevant but does your source definitely read Digland ? I have found a couple of references for Maker Heights , Kingsand.
Hopefully someone else might have a better idea  :)

Cathy
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 18 September 20 17:16 BST (UK)
I'd want to know the date and the source/document which gives "Digland" as an address.

at least , I assume it's an address, or is it a surname?

https://www.archiuk.com/archi/archi_maps.htm
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: markheal on Friday 18 September 20 19:48 BST (UK)
Many thanks for these ideas.
Possibly a spelling/mis-heard for nearby Cawsand/Kingsand.
That old maps website looks like a valuable resource.  Thanks
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: athel_cb on Saturday 19 September 20 20:01 BST (UK)
Kingsand-Cawsand is an interesting place, and I don't know of another similar example in England. It is for practical purposes one village, but before the county boundaries were revised in the 19th century the border went through the middle, with Kingsand in Devon and Cawsand in Cornwall. (Now it's all in Cornwall.) It was once a very violent place. My great-great-great grandfather was captain of a revenue cutter based in Cawsand and was very active in suppressing smuggling, and survived several attempts on his life.
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: markheal on Saturday 19 September 20 21:38 BST (UK)
Athel,
Thank you for sharing that very interesting story,
I shall now pour over my old maps again.

Most of my adult life has been in North Devon and I have always been very interested in how the Devon/Cornish border was agreed upon especially where it deviates from the wonderful River Tamar, the big border bulge North of North Tamerton and skirting Affaland Wood, and again West of Bridgerule, and from Moreton Mill to Tamar Lake.  Before the last lap to Marsland Mouth it just touches the head of the River Torridge near Brimford Cross just South of Meddon.
https://www.bing.com/maps?&cp=50.933425~-4.456656&lvl=16&style=s&osid=59b96bfa-0e19-4bbe-ac3d-62f1511daa85&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027






Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: [Ray] on Saturday 19 September 20 22:08 BST (UK)
markheal
I am now the third to ask upon what source reference(s)/documents do you base your quest?
Please respect the researchers and their times/efforts to assist?
Thanks and regards


Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: markheal on Sunday 20 September 20 03:31 BST (UK)
Greetings Ray,
Thank you for your care.
I am afraid that I have mislaid the source of this line but it was printed exactly
"Maker [near Digland], Cornwall".
As previously suggested it may well be a mis-transcription for the nearby Cawsand/Kingsand villages.
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: athel_cb on Monday 21 September 20 13:47 BST (UK)
Athel,
Thank you for sharing that very interesting story,

Let me expand it a little by quoting what Ambrose Bowden wrote to the Collector and Comptroller of Customs at Plymouth in 1818 when asking for a pension:

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On the 26th December 1799, I fell in with an armed smuggling cutter near Penlee, which immediately opened fire upon me; notwithstanding which, I persevered in my attempt to board her, with my boat’s crew; although the boat was full of men, I captured her. In this action one of my men (Humphrey Glynn) was killed, and one of the smugglers was afterwards tried, convicted and executed for this murder.

My residence at this period was at Cawsand. The smugglers there have fired at me through their doors, and I have often been very severely injured when forcing my way into their cellars and concealments.

In one instance, they succeeded in getting me jammed between two doors, in which situation they endeavoured to deprive me of my life through pressure, and so I received such serious injury in my shoulders and arms as to prevent my having the use of them for some time.

Exclusive of this, I have repeatedly suffered from severe beatings with oars, sticks, etc., also my life threatened to be taken away before a given period.

If you go to Cawsand today you'll find that it isn't like that!
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: athel_cb on Monday 21 September 20 14:04 BST (UK)
I knew I'd seen Maker as a place name before, but it has taken me a while to find where. However, it does appear to be close to Cawsand, as  Emma Jane Bowden (a rather distant relative) wrote the following in 1923 about her parents (Captain Richard Booth Bowden and [first name unknown] née Hicks):

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I know very little of the family myself. I know that my dear father and mother were married at Maker; that as children we lived at Cawsand, where most of us children were born; leaving Cawsand we lived at Plymouth for some years, and for educational advantages we went to France, where we lived many years.

Later in the letter she said the following about her father's naval career:

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He had remarkable incidents in his sailor career, one of which was that of being entrusted with the safe keeping of the French King Louis Philippe and Queen Marie Amelie, who had to fly from the French Revolution, and my dear father was charged with the care of them in the Mediterranean. Marie Amelie took a great fancy to him, always calling him son beau Capitaine her handsome Captain, and would allow no one else to escort her to table. When Louis Philippe was re-called to France he and Queen Marie Amelie went to reside at Eu, their country place in Normandy, and they invited my father to come and stay with them, but he would not, he wanted to go home.
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: Mocummings on Monday 09 November 20 15:24 GMT (UK)
It probably says Maker, near Kingsand.
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: markheal on Monday 09 November 20 23:43 GMT (UK)
It probably says Maker, near Kingsand.

Greetings Mo,
thank you for your help.  I guess that you are a local person!
Mark
Title: Re: Maker [near Digland], Cornwall, but DIGLAND not yet found....
Post by: Mocummings on Tuesday 10 November 20 09:25 GMT (UK)
I certainly am.