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Title: McCoy family
Post by: Thirsk19 on Tuesday 15 September 20 14:22 BST (UK)
Looking for family information about my great great grandparents Ellen and Thomas McCoy. They came over from Ireland circa 1881 And lived in Keighley Yorkshire.
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 15 September 20 15:41 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

What religion were your gt gt grandparents? Where in Kildare did they live - parish and townland?
What age were they from the 1891,1901 and 1911 censuses?

KG

Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Thirsk19 on Wednesday 16 September 20 12:11 BST (UK)
Thank you for getting back so quickly
My family came from County Down
I found them on the 1881 census, Ellen and Thomas McCoy after that cannot find Thomas
MG
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 September 20 19:57 BST (UK)
Is this your family on the 1881 Census address 242,Briggate Bradford Yorkshire
Transcribed as Mcoy on Ancestry
Thomas Mcoy age 34 born about 1847 Ireland occupation carter
Ellen Mcoy age 30 born about 1851 Ireland
John Mcoy age 8 born about 1873 Ireland
Mary Ellen Mcoy 3 born about 1878 Bradford
Hannah Eliza Mcoy age 6 months born Bradford

This family on later census in Keighley Yorkshire minus Thomas

Rosie
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 16 September 20 20:05 BST (UK)
Going by the gro.gov records for family mothers maiden name Campbell

Birth for son John McCoy 2 August 1872 Donaghmore Down Ireland
Father Thomas McCoy
Mother Ellen Campbell

Irish Catholic Marriage Records
Thomas McCoy
Ellen Campbell
14 January 1872
Donaghmore Ireland

Rosie
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 16 September 20 20:31 BST (UK)
Going by the gro.gov records for family mothers maiden name Campbell

Birth for son John McCoy 2 August 1872 Donaghmore Down Ireland
Father Thomas McCoy
Mother Ellen Campbell

Irish Catholic Marriage Records
Thomas McCoy
Ellen Campbell
14 January 1872
Donaghmore Ireland

Rosie

John 1872 born Ballymacaretty Beg townland
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03240/2187311.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-upper-half/donaghmore/ballymacaratty-beg/

Marriage 1872... Thomas surname given as McAvoy.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11295/8143554.pdf

KG


Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Thirsk19 on Wednesday 16 September 20 20:50 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your help, it is very much appreciated
MG
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 16 September 20 22:13 BST (UK)
The younger children’s birth registrations, Keighley, with mother’s maiden name of Campbell

1882 James McCoy
1884 Elizabeth McCay
1886 Margaret McKay
1889 Thomas McKie

In 1891 3534/180
Ellen, married, and the children are McKie.

In 1881, Thomas was a Carter.
Do you have his occupation on the younger children’s birth certificates?
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 17 September 20 06:48 BST (UK)
On all other census records Ellen McCoy /Mckie is listed as Married but no Thomas there
Marriage for their Daughter Mary Ellon McCoy 1903 says father's occupation miner
Arm records for son James lists his next of kin as his mother Mrs Ellen McCoy

There is a prison record for a Thomas McCoy age 30 Bradford ..Labourer  Roman Catholic Co Down
Date 2/6/1879 Wakefield Prison West Yorkshire sentenced for neglect to family

Might be a possibility

Rosie
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: heywood on Thursday 17 September 20 07:38 BST (UK)
Might it be that Thomas was the father of  the children before 1881 but not the children after.
Do you have birth certificates for the later children?
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: heywood on Thursday 17 September 20 07:54 BST (UK)
There was a child, Joseph MCoy Born and died 1894. The birth is showing mother’s name as Campbell.

I can see Ellen in 1901 4079/142/35

Is she to be seen in 1911? When did she die? Was she described as married or a widow on her death?
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 17 September 20 11:30 BST (UK)
1911 transcribed as Mcellan McCoy age 69 married 9 children born 6 living  3 children dead ..viewing the record has her
Mrs Ellen McCoy

Piece 26109

Rosie
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: heywood on Thursday 17 September 20 12:08 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie.
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: heywood on Thursday 17 September 20 12:20 BST (UK)
Possible Records:

1901
Thomas McCoy 67 yrs  Bradford - conviction for drunkenness
1903 as above but 65 yrs
1903 As above but Otley
1904 - Begging
The ages vary slightly in above and the places are the courts I think rather than residence.

1911 census
Thomas McCoy here but he is described as single.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNN-W9V
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: heywood on Thursday 17 September 20 12:22 BST (UK)
There is a death in Skipton in 1922 for Thomas McCoy 82 yrs.
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 17 September 20 12:37 BST (UK)
Seen that 1911 census record it certainly looks like a possibility  :)

Rosie
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Thirsk19 on Thursday 17 September 20 12:54 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for all the information and help
I find the possible convictions very interesting,where wood I be able to get access to these documents please.
MG
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Thirsk19 on Thursday 17 September 20 13:09 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie
It it possible for me to access prison records for Thomas McCoy senior?
Thanks for your help
MG
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 17 September 20 13:18 BST (UK)
This record was on Ancestry ..Heywood will be able to help you with the ones he found
Find my past also have some records having a look just now ..You could maybe try
nationalarchives.gov.uk ..

Rosie

Added the other records  are on Ancestry
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: heywood on Thursday 17 September 20 14:25 BST (UK)
The records are on Ancestry from this archive
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/cf1f8b88-6f28-4b26-9eea-a6db48ed0056

There are 9 records 1901-1907 plus the one previously mentioned re 1879. Most have ‘Down’ as birthplace or Ireland and one has Belfast.
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Thirsk19 on Thursday 24 September 20 15:57 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your help
Margaret
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: heywood on Thursday 24 September 20 16:03 BST (UK)
Thanks Margaret.
If you need any further help, just post.
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Thirsk19 on Sunday 18 October 20 16:09 BST (UK)
Thank you KG for the information, much appreciated
Margaret
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 18 October 20 16:20 BST (UK)

You're very welcome, Margaret  ;D

KG
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Thirsk19 on Sunday 18 October 20 16:21 BST (UK)
Thomas McCoy died in Skipton in 1922,
Is there a way I can find which cemetery he is buried in please
MG
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: amandria on Monday 25 October 21 12:18 BST (UK)
Hello, I have only just seen this...
I am not sure if we are connected, bit I come from a family of Mcoys.. Patrick Bridget and their daughter Bridget
Bridgets sister is Ellen Mcoy.. Ellan Married a Morgan Lewis... in which I was told
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: amandria on Monday 25 October 21 13:09 BST (UK)
Could any of this information be helpful?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/ellen-mccoy-24-216lpwg
Title: Re: McCoy family
Post by: Biggins1 on Friday 11 November 22 19:39 GMT (UK)
Hi, I believe that the Thomas McCoy who married Ellen Kennedy Campbell in 1872, is a brother of my great grandfather John McCoy who was born in Newry on January 22nd 1856. I would be very interested in sharing notes on this family.
Many thanks.