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Title: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: nicaron on Friday 11 September 20 12:25 BST (UK)
apparently he was buried in Birmingham, can anyone advise how i could get hold of army records or graveyard records .
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: GR2 on Friday 11 September 20 18:53 BST (UK)
If he died during the war, check the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site to see if he is listed there.

If you let us know his name and when he died, it might be possible to find out more.
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: nicaron on Friday 11 September 20 18:58 BST (UK)
His name was charles henry Marklew, married an irish girl called Kate Ennis, don t know the year he died yet.
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: nicaron on Friday 11 September 20 19:05 BST (UK)
his wife died in 1923 aged 28 and he was already deceased at that point.
and his daughter was born in 1921, so its probably 1922/23
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 11 September 20 19:28 BST (UK)
Is this his death?

MARKLEW, CHARLES  HENRY     29 
GRO Reference: 1922  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 238

Gives a birth year of 1893

This could be his birth

MARKLEW, CHARLES  HENRY     DAVIS 
GRO Reference: 1892  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 151
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 11 September 20 19:30 BST (UK)
This looks like the marriage

Marriages Sep 1920   
Ennis    Kathleen M    Marklew    King's N.    6d   563    
Marklew    Charles H    Ennis    King's N.    6d   563
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 11 September 20 19:38 BST (UK)
There is a record of a Charles Marklew being buried in Handsworth Cemetery April 1922

It costs a very expensive £20 to view the actual burial record!!

Deceased Name     Marklew, Charles

Month of burial    04   

Year of burial   1922   

Handsworth Cemetery

Note that his second name of Henry is not mentioned.  He was born in Birmingham so perhaps the family wanted him buried there.

Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: nicaron on Friday 11 September 20 19:40 BST (UK)
oh wow, thank you so much ...im quite emotional now...

First thing i have ever seen relating to him...
can i ask what is the gro listing
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 11 September 20 19:42 BST (UK)
Charles Henry Marklew enlisted at the age of 22 (1915) with the Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry. Address at the time gives as 3 Bolton Grove Lodge Road, Hockley Birmingham.

Original images of his enlistment papers are available to view on the subscription services (Ancestry and Find my Past).

Monica
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 11 September 20 19:45 BST (UK)
If you look at my reply #4 you will see the GRO reference number.  You can get a pdf of this death for £7 from the GRO.

If you haven't used the GRO before you will need to register first before ordering:-

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

He has some military records on Find My Past and there are images available to view

First name(s)   Charles Henry
Last name   Marklew
Age   22
Birth year   1892
Birth county   Warwickshire
Birth country   England
Service number   3/OX/18415
Regiment   Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
Unit / Battalion   6th, 7th Battalion, 3rd (Reserve) Battalion
Year   1915
Residence town   Birmingham
Residence county   Warwickshire
Residence country   England
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: brigidmac on Friday 11 September 20 20:21 BST (UK)
GRO is general records office
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 11 September 20 23:07 BST (UK)
This looks like the marriage

Marriages Sep 1920   
Ennis    Kathleen M    Marklew    King's N.    6d   563    
Marklew    Charles H    Ennis    King's N.    6d   563

Child:

Jun 1921 Birmingham    6d   519
MARKLEW Nellie E mmn ENNIS

Jamjar
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 11 September 20 23:17 BST (UK)
his wife died in 1923 aged 28 and he was already deceased at that point.
and his daughter was born in 1921, so its probably 1922/23

Where are you seeing his wife’s death? I can’t see it anywhere.

Jamjar

Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 11 September 20 23:55 BST (UK)
Is this his death?

MARKLEW, CHARLES  HENRY     29 
GRO Reference: 1922  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 238

Gives a birth year of 1893

This could be his birth

MARKLEW, CHARLES  HENRY     DAVIS 
GRO Reference: 1892  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 151

Mar 1892 Aston 6d 297
MARKLEW Charles
DAVIS Alice Maud M

Dec 1901 Birmingham 6d 88
MARKLEW Alice Maud M
CURRAL William George or PATRICK William John

Possible death of father:

MARKLEW, CHARLES  WILLIAM EDWARD  32 
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 250

Daughter:

MARKLEW, LUCY mmn DAVIS died Sep 1896
GRO Reference: 1896  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 139

Possible for Charles Henry in 1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSZQ-P4G

Jamjar
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: nicaron on Saturday 12 September 20 00:38 BST (UK)
Thank u all so much info ....I'm forever grateful
His wife died in 1923 and is buried in ireland ..she brought my nan back b4 she passed so I imagine her records are in Ireland.
But we knew nothing of my great grandad
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 12 September 20 01:23 BST (UK)
Update:

Dec 1901 Birmingham 6d 88
MARKLEW Alice Maud M
CURRAL William George or PATRICK William John

I think she married William George CURRALL and that this is them in 1911:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZH-XTT

CURRALL, IVY  MAUD mmn DAVIES 
GRO Reference: 1904  M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 171
Married: Mar 1930 Birmingham N. 6d 658
MORGAN John R
CURRELL Ivy M
Died: Mar 1980 BIRMINGHAM 32 1368
MORGAN Ivy Maud 20NO1903

CURRALL, WILLIAM  THOMAS mmn DAVIS 
GRO Reference: 1909  S Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 366
Married: Jun 1931 W.Bromwich 6b 1734
CURRALL William T
RICHARDS Elsie M
Deaths:
CURRALL, WILLIAM  THOMAS  1909 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q1/1991 in SWINDON  (7961A)  Volume 23  Page 2471
CURRALL, ELSIE  MARY 1908 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q1/1995 in Swindon  (7961C)  Reg C44B  Entry Number 136

I’m thinking that the other children are from a first marriage of William/George, and the Charles is yours:

CURRALL, GEORGE mmn BROOKES 
GRO Reference: 1897  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 173

CURRALL, OLIVE mmn BROOKES 
GRO Reference: 1899  D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 164
Married: Mar 1923 Birmingham 6d 331
COPPER Ernest
CURRALL Olive
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXRW-FN9
Died: COPPER, OLIVE  1899 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q4/1988 in BIRMINGHAM  (0611G)  Volume 32  Page 734
Possible death: COPPER ERNEST 2FE1896 Jun 1973 W.BROMWICH 9B 1913

Deaths:

CURRALL, WILLIAM  GEORGE  59 
GRO Reference: 1933  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 510

CURRALL, ALICE  MAUD MARY  67 
GRO Reference: 1939  J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 772

Jamjar
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: gaffy on Saturday 12 September 20 01:52 BST (UK)
Wife's death?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05046/4381322.pdf

Daughter's marriage?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1944/08769/5169760.pdf

Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 September 20 09:08 BST (UK)
GRO is general records office

General Register Office
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

You need to register if you have not already used the site.  It is also very useful as it shows mothers maiden surnames on birth indexes before 1911 which are not currently showing on freebmd.  It also shows ages at death from 1837
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 13 September 20 11:40 BST (UK)
There is a record of a Charles Marklew being buried in Handsworth Cemetery April 1922

It costs a very expensive £20 to view the actual burial record!!


That is a LOT. Surely if the pricing was more reasonable it would increase the income?  I do realise that there is a cost for digitising and indexing registers such as these, but pricing outside of the budget of most researchers will probably mean the actual number of downloads is very small.

Boo
Title: Re: MY Great grandfather was a british soldier
Post by: rodgepodge on Sunday 13 September 20 14:21 BST (UK)
You can download his Military Medal Card for free on National Archives. You just need to register and sign in to download.


Medal card of Marklew, Charles H  Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3931378