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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: james2006 on Thursday 27 August 20 10:22 BST (UK)
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Looking for information on Joseph Robert Brierley born 1899 in collyhurst Manchester to Joseph Robert Brierley and Sarah Jane Shea. Think he may have dropped use of name Joseph, as he is on the. 1939 census living with sister as Robert Brierley. Would like to know if he married and had children.
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There wasn't a census in 1939.
Were you looking at the 1939 National Register, by any chance?
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That's the one :!
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If I have the right family in 1911 (eldest brother Percy?), both he and his father were listed as Robert.
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Yes
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Would like to know if he married and had children.
Have you checked the Free BMD index for possible marriages for him?
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Looks like he died in 1974. You could take a chance on his death certificate to see if a wife or child was the informant but he wasn't married by the age of 40.
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From "Find a Will"
Brierley. John Robert, otherwise Robert, otherwise Joseph, of 258 Ridgway Street East, Manchester, died on 15 August 1974. Administration granted 9 September. £2827.
You could apply for a copy of the Letters of Administration which might have been granted to a family member, or perhaps a firm of solicitors. Letters of Administration are issued when there is no valid will, or one not able to be executed. The estate is then distributed in accordance with criteria laid down in law.
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Hard to know which name he was living under. Sometimes he is Joseph, sometimes Robert. Could he marry under Robert Brierley, or would he have to use his birth name of Joseph Robert?
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What is his marital status in 1939?
We can’t post info from that but you have seen it. That would give you a date to work from searching for a marriage.
Electoral registers were published after the war, you might find information there if you have addresses to search.
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Yes, I'll try addresses
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Hard to know which name he was living under. Sometimes he is Joseph, sometimes Robert. Could he marry under Robert Brierley, or would he have to use his birth name of Joseph Robert?
In England he can call himself whatever he likes as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes. He would not have had to prove who he was at that time.
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Hi I'm the granddaughter of Robert's sister Florence who he lived with in 1939. The probate record for 1974 when he passed away reflects that he went under Joseph Robert also Robert and john robert. Pretty sure he was single but if you order a copy of the probate it should say next of kin.
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From "Find a Will"
Brierley. John Robert, otherwise Robert, otherwise Joseph, of 258 Ridgway Street East, Manchester, died on 15 August 1974. Administration granted 9 September. £2827.
You could apply for a copy of the Letters of Administration which might have been granted to a family member, or perhaps a firm of solicitors. Letters of Administration are issued when there is no valid will, or one not able to be executed. The estate is then distributed in accordance with criteria laid down in law.
It looks as if he did not leave a will. Letters of Administration could have been granted to a close family member, but equally possibly to a solicitor or bank legal department who might have been acting on behalf of his nearest and dearest. L of A do not show who would have benefitted from the estate.
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I'll order a death certificate. Thankyou