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Title: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Saturday 22 August 20 22:27 BST (UK)
Hi,
Am wondering if there is anyone out there who may have contacts with The Horan famiyl 1800-1900.
This is the family of my late  husband,Drew.   He often referred to them as coming from Sligo.
This is what I have so far
John Horan c1830 married to Winifred McFarry. His son is Michael Horan born c1850 married to Mary Dolan, His siblings were Catherine, Michael Teirnan and John  c1876. John came to Edinburgh, married and had a son John my father in law. John went from Edinburgh to USA twice but returned to Edinburgh and died 1920.
Any help would be great, I am sorry I dont have more details.

Kind regards Lynda
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: heywood on Saturday 22 August 20 23:12 BST (UK)
Hello,

Here is a marriage - Michael Horan and Mary Dolan - 1876
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11365/8172268.pdf

1901 census - Michael and Mary
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Belhavel/Tullynasharragh/1486035/

Birth of son, Charles with mother Dolan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02549/1943267.pdf

This may help.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: heywood on Saturday 22 August 20 23:21 BST (UK)
I am confused with your message.
John born abt 1876 was the son of Michael not the sibling.
He was born in 1875
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03114/2142096.pdf

The record is also confusing as you will see. Michael is named as father but then the informant also shows ‘John, father’. This is perhaps an error of recording child’s name instead of father’s name.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 23 August 20 21:13 BST (UK)
I am confused with your message.
John born abt 1876 was the son of Michael not the sibling.
He was born in 1875
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03114/2142096.pdf

The record is also confusing as you will see. Michael is named as father but then the informant also shows ‘John, father’. This is perhaps an error of recording child’s name instead of father’s name.

The discrepancies have been circled by the registrar but I can't seen any explanatory notes. The father's name was written by the registrar as the father didn't sign his own name but made his mark.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: heywood on Sunday 23 August 20 21:27 BST (UK)
I understood the circling to show some identified error and thought, as I wrote, that the wrong name had been entered :-\
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 23 August 20 22:46 BST (UK)
Lynda, have you looked for Horan in Surname Interests and added your Horan?
Horan was a common name in my GF's townland in Mayo.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 23 August 20 23:01 BST (UK)
I am confused with your message.
John born abt 1876 was the son of Michael not the sibling.
He was born in 1875
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03114/2142096.pdf

Michael was born in 1876. Born in December.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03034/2112164.pdf
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 23 August 20 23:14 BST (UK)
John Horan c1830 married to Winifred McFarry. His son is Michael Horan born c1850 married to Mary Dolan, His siblings were Catherine, Michael Teirnan and John  c1876.

Did you mean children, not "siblings"?
Was Teirnan a middle name used by Michael? It wasn't on his birth registration. Did anyone else include Teirnan as part of their names?
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: heywood on Sunday 23 August 20 23:18 BST (UK)
Tiernan was another son of Michael and Mary (Dolan)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02931/2073995.pdf

I had thought that it should read children and not siblings.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 23 August 20 23:37 BST (UK)
Thanks, Heywood. I thought it might have been a clue to the surname of one of his grandmothers.
The usual spelling of it as a surname on 1901 census was TIERNAN.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 24 August 20 00:01 BST (UK)
Hello,

Here is a marriage - Michael Horan and Mary Dolan - 1876
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11365/8172268.pdf

1901 census - Michael and Mary
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Belhavel/Tullynasharragh/1486035/


Clicking on Tullynasharragh at the top of the page of the household transcription shows another Horan household in the townland. Head was Anne, widowed, + 3 children, Thomas, James and Winifred. Birth registrations of children show parents Thomas & Anne and mother's maiden surname FEELY or FEEHILY.  Marriage Thomas Horan & Anne FEELY 1864. Groom's father was John. Perhaps Thomas and Michael were brothers? It doesn't say that John was deceased on either marriage registration.
Death of a John Horan registered in Manorhamilton 1871. Age recorded was 70. No image.
There was another Horan couple, Patrick & Catherine, births registered Manorhamilton 1864-70.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 24 August 20 00:18 BST (UK)
1901 census - Michael and Mary
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Belhavel/Tullynasharragh/1486035/

Michael was dead by 1911 and John was back home and farming. Widowed Mary was head of household. Was the younger Mary, aged 22, John's wife. Who were parents of 2 granddaughters of Mary senior?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Belhavel/Tullynasharragh/654036
Do you know if any of the family remained?
The other Horan household, headed by Anne, was still there too. Thomas, her son had got younger instead of older since 1901.  :)
 
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 24 August 20 00:39 BST (UK)

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Belhavel/Tullynasharragh/654036
Do you know if any of the family remained?
The other Horan household, headed by Anne, was still there too. Thomas, her son had got younger instead of older since 1901.  :)

Anne's family was there in 1930s. She died in 1939, officially aged 93.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 01:14 BST (UK)
John came to Edinburgh, married and had a son John my father in law. John went from Edinburgh to USA twice but returned to Edinburgh and died 1920.

Is this the same John who is married in 1911 and still in Leitrim?
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 August 20 01:20 BST (UK)
I should have looked further  ::)

1910 birth Mary Keir Patterson Horan - father John Horan (Edinburgh) Mother Mary Moris
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01560/1630012.pdf

She is not Mary Anne aged 2 yrs though, is she? (1911 census earlier)
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 24 August 20 14:08 BST (UK)
Also Thomas Michael born 1912.
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 24 August 20 14:16 BST (UK)
I should have looked further  ::)

1910 birth Mary Keir Patterson Horan - father John Horan (Edinburgh) Mother Mary Moris
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01560/1630012.pdf

She is not Mary Anne aged 2 yrs though, is she? (1911 census earlier)

Age 2 on census might have been overwritten as 1. Looks like whoever wrote 2 tried to correct it. She would have been nearly 2.
Mary was married 2 years. There was 1 child of the marriage and 1 living.
Who was Anne aged 11?
Title: Re: Horan Family 1800 to 1900
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Monday 24 August 20 21:56 BST (UK)
Hi There,
Thankyou all for your response. I would also like to apologise for the confused wording of text. I should have said  siblings were that of John c1874. Apologies to you all.
I am going to study these details in full in the next day or two.
 I am trying to do this part of the tree for my children and grandchildren. My husband passed 20 years ago so I am trying to piece some of the bits together. I Know that Drew had an Aunt Cathy and Uncle Jimmy...all gone now and I think they were the children of Mary Dolan and her second marriage after John died. I can check this on Scotlands People site.
Kind regards and thankyou to you all.
Lynda Horan