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Title: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: MsNorthman on Friday 21 August 20 12:10 BST (UK)
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
I’m having no luck in finding a burial or cremation for Lily Williams nee Jowett.
I’ve looked through all of the select cemetery registers for Liverpool.
I’ve tried the newspapers for an obituary, but there are no records for the beginning of 1968 in the Liverpool Echo.
I’ve tried looking through all of the cemeteries available on rootsweb for Liverpool.
I’ve tried deceasedonline.
Is there somewhere else I can look? I can find records of her husband, her parents and even her husbands parents, but its Lily’s I need to find.

DOB 2 June 1891(comes up sometimes as 1892)
Death: 9 January 1968 at 27 Merton Road, Bootle (from her death certificate.)
Lived at Lyndhurst, Sunningdale Drive, Blundellsands/Crosby

Thanks
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: AddictedtoFamilyTree on Friday 21 August 20 14:21 BST (UK)
She doesn't seem to be on findagrave either. Sorry, not sure what to suggest if shes not in with other family members. Have Liverpool Council got online burial records?
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 21 August 20 14:40 BST (UK)
Have you purchased her will as that may give instructions as to where she wants laying to rest
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=williams&yearOfDeath=1968&page=37#calendar
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 August 20 15:44 BST (UK)
As you know her exact date of death you could ring Sefton Council to see if they have a record
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 21 August 20 16:08 BST (UK)
Where is her husband buried
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: MsNorthman on Friday 21 August 20 16:28 BST (UK)
Thanks for the responses.

 I’ve ordered a copy of the will, I didn’t think about her maybe having her wishes on that.
I’ll try speaking to Sefton Council next week.
Her husband Hugh Williams was cremated in Liverpool Crematorium in December 1953 so its likely Lily was cremated too. It just seems strange that I’m unable to find any record of it.
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: Gibel on Friday 21 August 20 17:03 BST (UK)
The nearest crematorium to her home address would be
Thornton Crematorium where there is also a cemetery  tel no. 0151 924 5143

or she could be buried at Bootle cemetery I can’t find a telephone number for them so use same number above,

Or She could be buried at St Luke’s C of E Church Crosby 0151 931 3119

Or if RC could be Ford Cemetery
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: Tickettyboo on Friday 21 August 20 17:49 BST (UK)
I had a firkle round Family Search
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1910613?availability=Family%20History%20Library

and within the images for the cremations index surnames L-Z 1963-1977 is this entry in 1968
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8979-MZ6?i=164&cat=1910613

No address but the name and date of death are a match for what you are looking for.

NB you need to be signed into Family Search (account is free) to search and see the images
Boo
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 August 20 19:04 BST (UK)
Well that was a really successful firkle - well done Tickettyboo ;D
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 22 August 20 14:09 BST (UK)
I checked the Book of Remembrance for Thornton Crematorium, which they have kindly put online (wish more crematoria would do this) , but it doesn't look like the family chose to have an entry.
http://thornton.alwaysloved.xyz

Boo
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: MsNorthman on Saturday 22 August 20 19:27 BST (UK)

Thanks guys. It looks like the Thornton one is the most likely. Not being from the area I didn’t even think of looking in that direction even though I know how close it is.  ::)
I'm going to email them and see if they can confirm any extra information so I can pin it down for definite.
Thanks for looking Tickettyboo, I looked myself in the hope I'd find something.

Thank you so much, I'd hit a wall and you've all been most helpful.  ;D
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 22 August 20 21:04 BST (UK)
It doesn't help searching when the FS catalogue has the area down as 'Sephton' rather than Sefton :-)

I do think the record is in the 'quite likely category' but agree that confirmation of the address at the time of death would be good.

The cremation number and the date of death, would, I'd guess, make it easier for them to check.
Not sure what info they normally give out, but if Registrars are anything to go by then given the name, cremation number and d.o.d. and a query asking if this lady's address at the time of her death was xxx would enable them to confirm or deny.
Fingers crossed you get the confirmation you need.

Boo
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: MsNorthman on Monday 24 August 20 16:10 BST (UK)
I've heard back from Thornton Crematorium. It was my Lily!
Thank you so much for your help everyone.  ;D
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: Tickettyboo on Monday 24 August 20 16:13 BST (UK)
Really pleased for you and thanks for letting us know the outcome.

Boo
Title: Re: Help finding a burial/cremation for Lily Williams
Post by: margaret1 on Monday 24 August 20 20:38 BST (UK)
Great news!

Margaret  :D