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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: Racheal Kibble on Monday 17 August 20 21:53 BST (UK)
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This is a bit of a longshot i think. I have tried very nearly everywhere else.
I am looking for information on a house called 'NINGWOOD'
In 1901/1911 it was occupied by John Trevor Dickson (1868-1956) and his wife Amy.
John was part of a prominent family in the area at the time, Dickson's Nurserymen and Seed Merchants.
I cannot find a map that shows the house, or anything to do with the house other than the censuses mentioned.
I would also love to find a picture of John Trevor, or his father, George Arthur Dickson, J.P (1836-1909)
I have emailed places like the RHS, RASE and the royal botanical gardens. For a very prominent family they have left no photographic evidence.
I thank you in advance,
racheal
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1901 just shows his address as Brook Lane - nothing about Ningwood. 1911 has Ningwood
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I've had a quick search of he Welsh Newspapers online archive, given the proximity to the border, and John Trevor Dickson and his two sisters Hilda and Bertha are mentioned quite a few times. They all seem to use the surname Trevor Dickson - I got 79 hits using that phrase (in inverted commas), including reports of the two girls' marriages. John's short career as a local councillor and his acquittal in trial for dangerous driving in a motor car in 1906
Ningwood is also mentioned a few times as his address, but no helpful details to pin down the location
No photos found yet - no indeed an obituary of George
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Mabel, thank you.
I will have a search of the Welsh newspapers. I have tried the newspapers on Findmypast but was Searching mainly in Cheshire.
The motor incident sounds interesting.
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Have you tried Cheshire Archives ? www.cheshirearchives.org.uk In my experience they are very helpful people.
Good luck with your research.
Simon
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I wonder if he renamed 'Springfield' in Newton to 'Ningwood' ? The 1900 Electoral Register has him at 'Springfield, Newton' and George died there a decade later. Just a thought. As you have probably already discovered off earlier maps, 'Springfield' is quite distant and it is also just off Brook Lane.
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I wonder if he renamed 'Springfield' in Newton to 'Ningwood' ? The 1900 Electoral Register has him at 'Springfield, Newton' and George died there a decade later. Just a thought. As you have probably already discovered off earlier maps, 'Springfield' is quite distant and it is also just off Brook Lane.
I'm not sure about that idea. John's address is given as Ningwood in adverts from 1900, whilst his father is still said to be living at Springfield on his death in 1909
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Thanks SiGr,
I have contacted Cheshire Archives, obviously things are a bit difficult at the moment regarding visiting and stuff, but i have had an email back from them- they dont have any photos either.
I liked your idea of a name change for the house, but ive found a newspaper report for John Trevor from 1896, that says he lived at Ningwood.
Looking at the 1901 census, Brook lane is sandwiched between Well Lane and Conniston Lane. Looking at google maps there is a house today, right on the corner of Brook Lane/Newton Lane called Conniston (name on the gate post zoomed in). There is also a big detached house, around about number 114 Brook lane that is now flats. (parkinsons property rentals sign outside)
Does anybody think this house, 114, is old enough to be Ningwood?
Thanks
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Racheal,
If you change the date on your Google Street View - the box in the upper left of the screen with the address in it - you can see a sign next to the door. It is two words but the resolution is not clear enough to read. Given it is two words, I suspect it does not read 'Ningwood'. Simon
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I didn't know you could change the date. I will have another look, thanks Simon.
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The trade and commercial directories for Chester for the years 1901/1911 might help in your search to locate this house. They are kept in the library in Chester and in the archives too. I am not sure whether you can access either of these at the moment as I am not local to Chester.
Jo
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Hi, I checked a couple of different trade directories online earlier today. They refer to the company itself in Newton. And on the personal details refer to 'Ningwood' being in Newton but sadly no street name.
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Thank you Simon.
Looking again at the census returns, old maps etc. I do think it may have been where I said on Brook Lane. Perhaps the house just wasn't large enough to be named on the old maps. After reading on an Upton heritage website I think the family and the business was reaching its end by the early 1900's and most of the land is now built on.
Racheal
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Just a thought, have you checked Wills ? E.g. I see Lavinia Mary Trevor Dickson's 1929 Probate references John Trevor Dickson glue manufacturer as an Executor. It might be that her Will and/or her Probate states his address. For £1.50 it might be worth the money. Alternately, other family Wills might have similar/greater detail.
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One final thought. Have you checked burial register details ? I used to have a www.deceasedonline.com subscription - now lapsed - and there were often many extra details in these. I have relatives buried in Overleigh Cemetery in Chester where there are quite a few Dickson's related to your John Trevor; I recall the Overleigh Registers were quite detailed.
Good luck.
Simon
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Thank you all for your help, your time and your suggestions.
I will post back if I find anything.
Racheal
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Not sure if you've seen this.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01pu7/
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http://images.shoutwiki.com/chester/9/97/DickSpring.jpg
George Dickson's house . Springfield
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Hi Hepburn,
I have seen the Upton history group page, thank you.
Thank you for the picture of Springfield, it is much clearer than the one i found using google maps.
How would i find your photo if i wanted to google search for it? (rather than follow the link)
Racheal
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Hi, I live in Springfield. I've spent the last few seeks researching the people who lived here over the last 200 years including George Arthur Dickson. I have found his will and the newspaper report of his funeral (flags at half mast in Chester etc. No photos but have lots more information about GAD if there are other things you would like to know then I'm happy to share.
Tony
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Hi Tony,
Thanks for replying to me.
My project is on the back burner at the minute, due to covid19.
Hopefully I will be able to get back into it soon, in the new year.
Can i get back to you then please.
Racheal
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Have a look at web site 'Vision of Britain' - Newton by Chester. Mentions a Dickson living at Newton Villa, which was by what is now Dickson Drive Fields.