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Title: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: emmiesummer on Sunday 09 August 20 21:54 BST (UK)
Hello everyone!

Im struggling to find the birth mother of Eva Selina Frances Smith (Married name Bowden)

Eva's DOB 17 jan 1891 Battersea area
DOD oct 1970 Folkstone

Eva's father is called William smith (found from the marriage certificate)

Eva's Husband is called Frederick Frank Bowden
DOB 10 nov 1891
DOD unsure?

They had 3 biology children together
Evelyn J Bowden B: 1923 Married jack Yeldom

Frederick George Bowden   B: 1916 DIED in the war Italy Commonwealth

elsie winifred bowden Married Thornton

& then James Stewart   B: 1920 (apparently found in a car park during the war, apparently a secrets love child, who knows haha)

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thank you Emmie
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 09 August 20 22:03 BST (UK)
Have you found a birth registration for Eva? 

From the DOB it should be registered in the March quarter of 1891. 

If found you can send for a copy of her birth certificate which will have mothers details on it. 
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 09 August 20 22:06 BST (UK)
   SMITH, EVA  SELINA FRANCES    CARMICHAEL 
GRO Reference: 1891  M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 201

Should be on 1891 census
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 09 August 20 22:07 BST (UK)
Here it is with mothers maiden name.

March 1891

Saint Olave Southwark district

Smith - Eva Selina Frances mothers maiden name Carmichael

Volume 01D

Page 201

Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 09 August 20 22:11 BST (UK)
Marriages Q1 1888   Lambeth    1d   591

CARMICHAEL    Leonora Ann           <<<
King    Blanche Mary        
SMITH    William John C        <<<
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 09 August 20 22:14 BST (UK)
There's a marriage in Lambeth 1888 with these names on

Leonora Ann Carmichael
Blanche Mary King
William John C Smith
??

May not be correct but one to look into and rule out if necessary.

What was the occupation for William Smith on her marriage please? **

** answering my own question - he was a dock labourer
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 09 August 20 22:15 BST (UK)
Eva Selina Frances Smith
Baptism Date:    26 Jan 1898    Kennington St John the Divine, Lambeth,
Father:    William John Smith, plumber
Mother:    Leonora Smith

Address 1 Elliott Road
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: emmiesummer on Sunday 09 August 20 22:18 BST (UK)
There's a marriage in Lambeth 1888 with these names on

Leonora Ann Carmichael
Blanche Mary King
William John C Smith
??

May not be correct but one to look into and rule out if necessary.

William's job is listed as dock labour
What was the occupation for William Smith on her marriage please?
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 09 August 20 22:19 BST (UK)
An older sibling

Leonora Jane Smith
Baptism Date:    11 Jul 1888 Kennington St John the Divine, Lambeth , England
Father:    William John Smith machinist
Mother:    Leonora Smith

Address 156 Ferndale Road Brixton
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 09 August 20 22:31 BST (UK)
They are proving rather elusive on the census

I have found Leonora pre marriage - with parents in Battersea in 1871, b Clapham c1866. With aunt and uncle in Rhyl in 1881, b London c1866. She and William had a child William in 1886, before they married
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 10 August 20 15:03 BST (UK)
Yes very elusive on census but I think we've found the birth mother for you Emmie  :)
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: emmiesummer on Wednesday 12 August 20 21:33 BST (UK)
Thank you guy for your help. still looking into this as we think we found another daugther the same name a year before who probley died.
Title: Re: Eva Selina Frances Bowden
Post by: emmiesummer on Wednesday 12 August 20 21:35 BST (UK)
Yes very elusive on census but I think we've found the birth mother for you Emmie  :)

Still looking into things with this family but thank you for your help.