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Title: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: Pat on Tuesday 21 July 20 06:32 BST (UK)
This newpaper report of the funeral of Edith Smith has been sent to me, but I am having difficulty in reading all the names. Any help in enhancing the photograph would be most appreciated. Edith is part of a family we are having great difficulty in sorting out and I am hoping some of the names mentioned may be of help.
Cheers,
Pat
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 21 July 20 22:31 BST (UK)
About the best I can do I'm afraid.
POB looks like Ilkeston if it helps.
According to the 1939 register she was born 22nd. Sept. 1910.
Edgar Smith married Edith Clarke 1932.
GRO Ref.
Dec. 1932 Belper/7b/1674
Her birth is probably this one as Basford was the Reg. District for Ilkeston:
Births Sep 1910
CLARKE Edith Basford/7b/267
MMN Jowett.
You should find them in 1911 but you need the above marriage cert. to confirm.
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: tomkin on Wednesday 22 July 20 00:51 BST (UK)
               I can read a lot of it with difficulty but couldn't guarantee the accuracy.

      It's late now but I'll have a go tomorrow.  I think others will be able to add bits

       and together it might make sense. Do you know which Newspaper carried the

         report?. They might have it on file   You know the place and the date. I assume

           it's a local newspaper.
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: zoe_Wiccalo on Wednesday 22 July 20 02:47 BST (UK)
the death occurred at her home on wednesday
that week of mrs edith smith of 15 south street ??? ??
she was 66. born in ??? ? mrs smith was a cotton spinner for ??? ?
in Nottingham. she was interested in travel, ??? ? and a member
of the mothers union ?smethwick? primary school PTA.
A husband, one son and five daughters bereaved.
mrs smith held connections with St andrews church ?smethwick?
where a service conducted by Rev A redman took place on Saturday.
:::LIST OF NAMES:::


Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: Pat on Wednesday 22 July 20 06:27 BST (UK)
Hiabo
Thank you for your help, I do know about the main people.  It is more the rest of the mourners I am interested in to try to make sense of what has been a difficult family to trace.
Cheers,
Pat
About the best I can do I'm afraid.
POB looks like Ilkeston if it helps.
According to the 1939 register she was born 22nd. Sept. 1910.
Edgar Smith married Edith Clarke 1932.
GRO Ref.
Dec. 1932 Belper/7b/1674
Her birth is probably this one as Basford was the Reg. District for Ilkeston:
Births Sep 1910
CLARKE Edith Basford/7b/267
MMN Jowett.
You should find them in 1911 but you need the above marriage cert. to confirm.
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: Pat on Wednesday 22 July 20 06:36 BST (UK)
Hi,
Thank you so much for your help.  Unfortunately I have no idea which paper the article appeared in.  I am trying to identify the mourners to help with the family. 
Cheers,
Pat.

Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: Pat on Wednesday 22 July 20 06:38 BST (UK)
Hi,
Thank you for your help.  Unfortunately I have no idea which paper the article appeared in. It's been a very difficult disjointed family to research, hence the need to see who the mourners were.
Cheers,
Pat.


               I can read a lot of it with difficulty but couldn't guarantee the accuracy.

      It's late now but I'll have a go tomorrow.  I think others will be able to add bits

       and together it might make sense. Do you know which Newspaper carried the

         report?. They might have it on file   You know the place and the date. I assume

           it's a local newspaper.
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: japeflakes on Wednesday 22 July 20 08:15 BST (UK)
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Post by: japeflakes on Wednesday 22 July 20 08:15 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 22 July 20 09:22 BST (UK)
My interpretation, though likely some are wrong.

Mourners were: Husband
Edgar, Eric Ronald Smith (son);
Mr and Mrs S Elv—-, Mr
And Mrs John A—-brook, Mrs
Shiela Lamb, Mr and Mrs K
Brooks, Mr and Mrs D Taylor
(Daughters and sons in law);
Miss Vicky A—-brook, Richard
Elv—, Eric Elv—-, Janet Elv—-,
Beverley Elv—-s (grandchildren);
Mr and Mrs J Johnson?
(Brother and sister in law); Mrs
Mary Barker, Mr and Mrs J
Mosley (sisters and brothers in
law); Mr and Mrs J Goodhall, Mr
And Mrs J Goodhall, Mr
And Mrs Donald Roberts, Mrs
 Brown, Mrs ———
—-, Mr and Mrs Ray Bowyer,
Mr and Mrs All—-son, Mr and
Mrs C C—-y (friends).

Floral tributes were a cross
Of roses from husband and
Family; Barbara [or Rebecca] and Sid,
Janet, John and Vicky, Eric and Lynn,
Shiela Pete and Neil, Ruth and
Keith, Mary and David, Ken
Evelyn and Sue; Beverley and
Ian; Eric Elvins (grandson);
Christine and Paddy; Kitty, Fred
and Grandma; Hazel, Ben and
Denise; Mr and Mrs T Lamb;
Mr and Mrs C Taylor, Mrs
To—-; Mrs B/D—— and Mrs
Walker (committee and officials
of Se—-ton C—-des Club);
Mr and Mrs DL ——
(Sky High Restaurant, S——);
Lucy, Albert, C—- and Diane;
Mrs Elvin- and Dolly; Mr and
Mrs R—-e; Tom, Jean and
Family; L—- and Don; Joe and
Vera; Mr and Mrs W Brad-
Ford and Colin, Ray, Ethel and family; loving sister Mary;
Winnie, Arthur and family.

Phew.  :P
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 22 July 20 11:09 BST (UK)
Who/what are you having a problem with?
Is it his family or hers?
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 22 July 20 12:24 BST (UK)
She was born in Ilkeston and her address at the time of her death was 16 South St, Swanwick member of Mother’s union and Swanwick PTA

Funeral service was at St Andrew’s Swanwick

Husband was Edgar
 one son and five daughters.
Likely birth registrations for 1 son and 5 daughters 1930's and 1940's, Belper District for  the names listed as son and married daughters. (daughters’ married names are Elvins, Ashebrook, Lamb, Brook and Taylor)

These reports had a sort of pecking order, combine the  daughters’ married names in the mourners list with the first lot of names in the floral tributes list from Barbara and Sid down to Mary and David and you should be able to match the birth regs to the married names of the daughters and confirm their marriages and subsequent children.

If whoever sent you the clip has the original, are they able to tell you which newspaper? If they have the original ask them if they could  re-scan it at a higher resolution, at least 200 dpi, which may well help to make it easier to read.

Boo
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: japeflakes on Wednesday 22 July 20 13:25 BST (UK)
2nd attempt
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: Pat on Thursday 23 July 20 03:11 BST (UK)
Hi,
Thank you so much.  I'm sure this is going  to be a great help. I really appreciate the time you have taken to transcribe this article.
Cheers
Pat.
My interpretation, though likely some are wrong.

Mourners were: Husband
Edgar, Eric Ronald Smith (son);
Mr and Mrs S Elv—-, Mr
And Mrs John A—-brook, Mrs
Shiela Lamb, Mr and Mrs K
Brooks, Mr and Mrs D Taylor
(Daughters and sons in law);
Miss Vicky A—-brook, Richard
Elv—, Eric Elv—-, Janet Elv—-,
Beverley Elv—-s (grandchildren);
Mr and Mrs J Johnson?
(Brother and sister in law); Mrs
Mary Barker, Mr and Mrs J
Mosley (sisters and brothers in
law); Mr and Mrs J Goodhall, Mr
And Mrs J Goodhall, Mr
And Mrs Donald Roberts, Mrs
 Brown, Mrs ———
—-, Mr and Mrs Ray Bowyer,
Mr and Mrs All—-son, Mr and
Mrs C C—-y (friends).

Floral tributes were a cross
Of roses from husband and
Family; Barbara [or Rebecca] and Sid,
Janet, John and Vicky, Eric and Lynn,
Shiela Pete and Neil, Ruth and
Keith, Mary and David, Ken
Evelyn and Sue; Beverley and
Ian; Eric Elvins (grandson);
Christine and Paddy; Kitty, Fred
and Grandma; Hazel, Ben and
Denise; Mr and Mrs T Lamb;
Mr and Mrs C Taylor, Mrs
To—-; Mrs B/D—— and Mrs
Walker (committee and officials
of Se—-ton C—-des Club);
Mr and Mrs DL ——
(Sky High Restaurant, S——);
Lucy, Albert, C—- and Diane;
Mrs Elvin- and Dolly; Mr and
Mrs R—-e; Tom, Jean and
Family; L—- and Don; Joe and
Vera; Mr and Mrs W Brad-
Ford and Colin, Ray, Ethel and family; loving sister Mary;
Winnie, Arthur and family.

Phew.  :P
Title: Re: Is it possible to enhance this article please
Post by: Pat on Thursday 23 July 20 03:19 BST (UK)
HI Boo,
thank you so much, you've been a great help.  Unfortunately no one in this family is able to tell me which paper printed this article.  At this stage I just feel happy to have something which may help me.
Cheers,
Pat.

She was born in Ilkeston and her address at the time of her death was 16 South St, Swanwick member of Mother’s union and Swanwick PTA

Funeral service was at St Andrew’s Swanwick

Husband was Edgar
 one son and five daughters.
Likely birth registrations for 1 son and 5 daughters between Q4 1932 and Q1 1946, Belper District for  the names listed as son and married daughters. (daughters’ married names are Elvins, Ashebrook, Lamb, Brook and Taylor)

These reports had a sort of pecking order, combine the  daughters’ married names in the mourners list with the first lot of names in the floral tributes list from Barbara and Sid down to Mary and David and you should be able to match the birth regs to the married names of the daughters and confirm their marriages and subsequent children.

If whoever sent you the clip has the original, are they able to tell you which newspaper? If they have the original ask them if they could  re-scan it at a higher resolution, at least 200 dpi, which may well help to make it easier to read.

Boo