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Title: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Wednesday 15 July 20 12:55 BST (UK)
Seeking information on John Hammond in Hoghton, Lancashire. He was the final station master of Hoghton Railway Station on its closure circa 1960.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 15 July 20 13:08 BST (UK)
Do you have details of where and when he was born?
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 15 July 20 13:16 BST (UK)
61 entries for his name in Lancashire on the 1939 register so you need to give more info about him

Exactly what type of info are you looking for?
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Tuesday 03 November 20 10:44 GMT (UK)
Apologies for the delay in replying. It is thought that this particular John Hammond originated from Liverpool. I'm currently looking for some additional information to share with you.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Tuesday 03 November 20 10:50 GMT (UK)
Possible full name - John Leslie Hammond from Liverpool. Appears to be the only one with a railway connection. DOB 1910
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Tuesday 03 November 20 11:02 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage to Dorothy Meadows, 1972 Wigan.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 03 November 20 11:15 GMT (UK)
If he was the 1910 birth then he would have been 62 if married in 1972

What is your interest in him?  If he is an ancestor you must have more info about him apart from a name & occupation?

When did he die?  His death reg will give his age
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Tuesday 03 November 20 11:19 GMT (UK)
He is not a relative. The local Historical Society here is researching Hoghton Station and associated information. We don't have any other information as yet other that previously provided. I'm currently contacting Railway History forums for additional help.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Tuesday 03 November 20 12:19 GMT (UK)
An potential alternative - John Leslie Hammond, b.1910 Carbrook Sheffield
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 03 November 20 15:31 GMT (UK)
Same comments re age on marriage?

There are lot’s of John Hammond’s and lots more with middle names.  How long had he been the station master prior to it’s closure?   

Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Tuesday 03 November 20 15:37 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately I don't have access to 1939 records
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 03 November 20 15:44 GMT (UK)
1939 lookups are not allowed here due to copyright issues.  There are far too many John Hammond’s to determine the right person without more info. 

In 1939 he may not have been the station master or even lived in Hoghton.

Hoghton came under Chorley registration district and there are no deaths for a John Hammond so he may not have continued to live in Hoghton after the station closed

There are only 2 marriages in the Chorley RD and they were 1965 & 1969
www.freebmd.org.uk
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 03 November 20 15:55 GMT (UK)
http://memoriesofhoghton.blogspot.com/2011/12/ho-ghton-station-1950-hoghton-station.html

Thomas Windle was a booking clerk at Hoghton according to the above and was a relative of the owner of the blog.  Contacting her may yield some info
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 03 November 20 18:40 GMT (UK)
He should have been on electoral registers. Was there accommodation with the job or might he have lived outside Hoghton?
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 03 November 20 19:26 GMT (UK)
I notice that a request for info was posted on the Chorley Pals Facebook page back in December which doesn't appear to have yielded any results

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he has found all the Station Masters at Hoghton from its opening in 1846 but is struggling to find details of the last one. Local newspapers recorded that a John Hammond was there at closure in September 1960, but little else.

From the research already done - what is the last known date for a station master?  For example - if it is known that Joe Bloggs was station master until 1950 - then that only leaves 10yrs for a search for Hammond   
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Wednesday 04 November 20 10:17 GMT (UK)
We know that John Hammond was Hoghton Stationmaster at its closure in September 1960. Unsure as to when he commenced.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 04 November 20 10:19 GMT (UK)
Please see my reply above

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what is the last known date for a station master?
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Wednesday 04 November 20 10:25 GMT (UK)
 12 September 1960
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Wednesday 04 November 20 10:44 GMT (UK)
The previous Station Master left in 1958 and he lodged in Mill Hill (Blackburn); the one before him also lived in Blackburn. There used to be a house with the job up to 1951 on The Straits in Hoghton. John Hammond served 1958 to 1960.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 04 November 20 11:28 GMT (UK)
That narrows it considerably but there are no John Hammond deaths in Blackburn between 1960 - 2007

If he only took over in 1958 he may not even have worked for the railways in 1939. 

He could have lived in any locality and returned there after 1960.  Preston was not that far but there is only one death in Preston and he was William John F Hammond b 1891 meaning he would have been 67 in 1958.  The 1939 entry for him does not support a railway connection

The John Leonard Hammond b Liverpool 1910 married and died there in 1995

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An potential alternative - John Leslie Hammond, b.1910 Carbrook Sheffield

Births September qtr 1909   
HAMMOND    John Leslie    Sheffield    9c   691

If you have looked at the 1939 register I suspect you have looked at the wrong entry

Births September qtr 1909   
HAMMOND    John Arthur         Wakefield    9c   27

Death March qtr1981 Wakefield John Arthur Hammond aged 71 Born 30 May 1909
 
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Wednesday 04 November 20 11:34 GMT (UK)
Are there any details online re. the marriage of John L Hammond b Liverpool 1910?
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 04 November 20 11:40 GMT (UK)
Yes - www.freebmd.org.uk September qtr 1941
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Wednesday 04 November 20 11:58 GMT (UK)
OK thank you. I'll research this marriage and possible descendants.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Monday 09 November 20 10:58 GMT (UK)
Well after spending much of yesterday looking for John Hammond and his wife Minnie Bake I've hit an impasse. Are the electoral roles for Blackburn and Preston the next step (i don't have access)?
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 09 November 20 12:37 GMT (UK)
If he occupied the station house for his 2yr stint as station master ER's will not tell you anything about him apart from his name & that of his wife (if present)

Minnie Hammond b 9.1.1917 died 1992 Liverpool

Liverpool ER's show John L Hammond & Minnie Hammond living @ 40 Carstairs Rd Liverpool in 1950/55/60/65

Online ER's for Lancashire are only available to 1935 so you would have to visit the Records Office to view 1958-1960. 




Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Monday 09 November 20 13:23 GMT (UK)
Thanks Carole. The house that went with the position of Station Master for Hoghton was removed in approx. 1956. John L Hammond's predecessor; 1956 - 1958, had lodgings in Mill Hill, Blackburn. It could be possible that JH took the same house on(?).
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 09 November 20 16:31 GMT (UK)
Unless you have an address in Blackburn for the lodgings - you will not be able to search ER's.  Also - it's a very short period of 2yrs so he may not be on an ER
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Tuesday 10 November 20 11:16 GMT (UK)
Any access on Ancestry to Railway Staff Records of "British Railways London Midland Region" for the period 1950 onwards.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 10 November 20 12:00 GMT (UK)
1833-1956 but none showing a residence date after 1945 at any of the stations

There are only 35 entries for that name
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Tuesday 10 November 20 12:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks Carole. He's proving to be tricky. Looking now at obituary notices for both John & Minnie in Liverpool Echo etc.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Iddon-Moss on Thursday 17 December 20 11:44 GMT (UK)
Does anyone have access to https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk? This site contains railway records are taken from Railway Company Staff magazines which may have information concerning Hoghton Station and John Hammond.
Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 17 December 20 13:24 GMT (UK)
Why not sign up for a free 2wk trial

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Title: Re: Look up request John Hammond
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 17 December 20 23:28 GMT (UK)
I second Carole's suggestion.
One isn't supposed to ask for look-ups from subscription sites.