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Title: Correct father
Post by: a chesters on Tuesday 07 July 20 06:42 BST (UK)
I have one of OH's ancestors whom I am trying to sort out the correct father

On the marriage certificate, Alice Crompton, full age, marries John Waterhouse, in 1841.

Her father, as per the marriage certificate is James Crompton,and his occupation is Hatter.

In trying to find out more information, I have James Crompton as a cotton spinner.

I have a strong feeling that the two occupations are different, but would like someone else to confirm that feeling.

If that is so, it does mean that I will have to do some more digging to get the correct information about James Crompton.

Any comments would be very gratefully received.

A Chesters
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 07 July 20 07:01 BST (UK)
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

19 Dec 1841 at   St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
John WATERHOUSE - full age, Printer, Bachelor, Whitefield
Father's name:      John WATERHOUSE, Printer

Alice CROMPTON - (X), full age, Spinster, Whitefield
Father's father:        James CROMPTON, Hatter   

Witness: Edmund AINSWORTH; James SHELDRICK
   
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 07 July 20 07:03 BST (UK)
The occupations are different.  My grandfather was a hatter  working in Hat manufacture in Stockport but could her father have changed his occupation by the time his daughter married??

Kay
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 07 July 20 07:06 BST (UK)


".. My grandfather was a hatter  working in Hat manufacture in Stockport "

Who is your grandfather,
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 07 July 20 07:11 BST (UK)


".. My grandfather was a hatter  working in Hat manufacture in Stockport "

Who is your grandfather,

William Dean Sherratt - but not related to this family  ;D
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: bevo on Tuesday 07 July 20 07:54 BST (UK)
Lancs OPC also has:
Marriage: 11 Apr 1841 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
William Bedford - (X), full age, Weaver, Bachelor, Bottom oth Moor Oldham
Sarah Crompton - (X), full age, Spinster, Bottom oth Moor Oldham
    Groom's Father: James Bedford, Weaver
    Bride's Father: James Crompton, Hatter
    Witness: William Gleeson; James Sheldrick

Marriage: 12 Feb 1843 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Thomas Crompton - (X), full, Hatter, Widower, Redtomnook
Sally Cooper - (X), full, Spinster, Cotton Street
    Groom's Father: James Crompton, Hatter
    Bride's Father: Thomas Cooper
    Witness: Abram Jackson; John Jackson

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: josey on Tuesday 07 July 20 07:58 BST (UK)
In trying to find out more information, I have James Crompton as a cotton spinner.
What & where is this other information?

My grandfather was a hatter  working in Hat manufacture in Stockport
Off topic, but last year I visited the Hat Museum in Stockport - fascinating!
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 07 July 20 08:13 BST (UK)

You are researching the family of James CROMPTON, hatter.

What relevance does James CROMPTON, cotton spinner, have on your research.

It is not very helpful to say...."I have James Crompton as a cotton spinner."

How and why do you have .....James CROMPTON as a cotton spinner?

Are you seeing this name on a family tree?
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 07 July 20 08:23 BST (UK)
In trying to find out more information, I have James Crompton as a cotton spinner.
What & where is this other information?

My grandfather was a hatter  working in Hat manufacture in Stockport
Off topic, but last year I visited the Hat Museum in Stockport - fascinating!

Haven't been to the Hat Museum yet - must try and get there!

Re James Crompton a Spinner - I think that A Chesters has found a baptism for Jane with father James who is a weaver but not one where he is Hatter
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: jonwarrn on Tuesday 07 July 20 08:43 BST (UK)
Did Alice come from Bury?
This her in Elton in 1861?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7Z9-8G9

Marriage at St Mary the Virgin, Bury, 2 January 1815
James Crompton, Hatter, Bachelor
+
Ann Taylor, Spinster

BT here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68PC-YC?i=233&cat=598734
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 07 July 20 09:19 BST (UK)
Possible baptism of a child from the marriage that might tie in with the Sarah Crompton who married in 1841 that Bevo found

Baptism 18 Feb 1816 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire
Sarah Crompton - Daughter of James Crompton & Ann
  Born: 5 Jan 1816
    Abode: Bury
    Occupation: Hatter
Title: Re: Correct father
Post by: a chesters on Wednesday 08 July 20 04:20 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your interest and comments.

In following the tree, I found the the Alice Crompton I was following, after her marriage to John Waterhouse, the only Alice Crompton I could find, with a father of James, was James Crompton, born about 1800 in Lancashire, and married to Martha Simister..

I will admit freely, that at the time, I did not notice that Alice's father was a hatter  :-[  I found a baptism for Alice in Oldham, and her father James was a spinner. It was only when I was doing more checking that I noticed that the marriage register had James as a hatter.

That is why I asked the question, as I was not sure about how different the occupations were.