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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Kath Boon on Monday 06 July 20 15:41 BST (UK)
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She married John Coates Johnson in 1895, but I cannot find anything about her before then. I know she was born in North Shields, and her father was William Graham c1828 and her mother was Mary - possibly McCoull (McCoule). I am on Ancestry and cannot find anything. Can anyone help?
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How do you know both her parents names etc if you can't find anything on her before her marriage?
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Her marriage stated that her father was William Graham, and the 1891 census says her mother was Mary
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When I said I couldn't find anything before, I should have stated that I cannot find her birth or anything after that. There are a couple of Jane Grahams on Ancestry, but they are born in different places.
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John Coates Johnson died 5.4.1941 Durham aged 82. You can find them both on the 1939 register
His birth is on freebmd as John Coats Johnson 1858 Tynemouth
There is a Jane Ann Graham birth in the Sept qtr 1864 - Tynemouth but mothers maiden name was Neal
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What information does the 1891 give for her mother
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1891 has Mary Graham - Widow aged 63 b North Shields but there are other children & grandchildren on entry so give me a minute & will post full details
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1891 83 Stephenson St Wallsend
Mary Graham widow 63 b N Shields
Jane A 26 b N Shields
Lilian Turnbull 9 g/dtr b Howden
It carries on to next page showing 3 single daughters surname Campbell but address is 89 Stephenson St - no head of household hence assumption they were Mary's daughters. Shown as same household on the transcription
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1901 entry shows both Jane & John Johnson b Howden & living in Durham
2 sons - Henry 4 & Arthur 1 both b Gateshead - GRO shows mmn Graham
Henry Miller Johnson b 1896 & Arthur b 1899
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSHJ-YCC
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWCL-M48
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Here is the 1871 reference - Mary was a widow with older children than Jane
RG10 Piece 5115 Folio 76 Page 26 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BX-BBX
1861
RG9 piece 3839 folio 64 page 26 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7N5-GYV
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On the 1861 entry you will see a daughter Isabella aged 6. GRO shows her as Isabella White Graham - mmn Neal
Also - William Wight Graham 1851 & Thomas 1849 - both show mmn as Neal
Freebmd has an 1848 marriage in S Shields - William Graham & Mary Neal
Check William's occupation on the 1861 against that on the 1895 marriage cert
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https://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/34819/Marriage-indexes
https://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/34814/Search-historical-births-deaths-and-marriages-records
This website indicates the marriage of William Graham & Mary Neal took place at St Hilda on 4 June 1848.
South Shields library & Tyne and Wear Archives will have this marriage on microfilm. Both are closed at the present time due to the Covid situation.
I have just added this info to their Freebmd entries as a postem. It may take up to 24 hours to display.
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Ref opening post. All indications point to her mother being Mary Neal but you say her mother was possibly Mary McCoule/McCoull
That marriage was 1854 - was that an assumption or do you have some other info that links to that marriage?
On the 1895 marriage cert - were either of the witnesses related to Jane?
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http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/cgi-bin/ML_search.cgi?year=1854&qtr=1&vol=10b&page=23&search=search
Marriage Locator indicates the 1854 marriage took place at All Saints. Tyne and Wear Archives will have this marriage record on microfilm too.
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Transcription of marriage of William Graham and Mary Neal gives her father as Thomas Neal.
This may be Mary Neal's baptism in Tynemouth.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DYX7-QXT?i=137&wc=9K53-HZ3%3A13617901%2C30809801%2C31138301&cc=1309819
Possible burial for Thomas Neal
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6S8Q-FQV?i=533&wc=9K59-FM9%3A13617901%2C30809801%2C31332702&cc=1309819
This is the baptism for a younger sister of Mary, Jane Neal in 1839.https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6S8Q-JCG?i=457&wc=9K59-FM9%3A13617901%2C30809801%2C31332702&cc=1309819
Groindex entry for Jane Neal gives mmn as Storey which leads to a possible marriage in Jarrow in 1824 between Thomas Neal and Mary Storey.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-665S-R2?i=300&wc=9K5S-82S%3A13618101%2C27539001%2C27539002&cc=1309819
William
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I agree with Carole that Jane Ann's mother was most likely to be Mary Neal.
This is William Graham and Mary ( McCoull ) family in 1861. Note sister in law named as Agnes McCoull and a daughter Jane b c 1857 Newcastle.https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7JM-BVL
And this is that family in 1871. Note this William Graham is now a widower.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BX-R8K
William
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William Graham who married Mary Neal may have had death registered in the March quarter of 1869 Tynemouth district age 42. Possibilities for burial Christ Church, Tynemouth Cemetery or Preston Cemetery.
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Sorry I haven't been able to reply sooner, but my computer decided not to work.
I would like to thank everyone for their help in sorting this out. I have taken note of everything posted, and concur that Mary's maiden name is Neale, not the one I posted.
Kath