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Title: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Wednesday 01 July 20 11:35 BST (UK)
Seeking the burial place and obituary for this world war one officer.
He was born 20.5.1894 in Gloucester and died 18.9.1961, age 67.

His last address was 4 Hatherley Lane, Redgrave, Cheltenham.
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 01 July 20 12:49 BST (UK)
Two free searches for family history:

https://cheltenhambereavement.co.uk/contact-us
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: duport on Wednesday 01 July 20 14:12 BST (UK)
I'm afraid there's something wrong with this address. It's Redgrove Cottages, 4 Hatherley Lane. It's a listed building.
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 01 July 20 14:49 BST (UK)
He left a Will which might give instructions about burial;  the address shown on the Probate details is as given in the original posting (except it is Redgrove and not Redgrave).

ERROR.....there is no Will, it was Administration to his widow. Apologies. :-[
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 01 July 20 14:51 BST (UK)
You didn't mention that his death was registered in Devon - not Gloucestershire which could affect his burial place  ???

The probate entry shows he died in Paignton Hospital
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 01 July 20 15:01 BST (UK)
Wife died 1980 Gloucs
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Wednesday 01 July 20 16:14 BST (UK)
Leonard died in Paignton Hospital, Devon, presumably whilst on holiday. It's always sunny here until October. I am guessing that his body would have been returned to Cheltenham.

Yes, his wife Elsie Winifred died on Monday, 1st December 1980 at Cheltenham, age 86.
I don't expect to find him buried with his wife as they appeared to have separated.

It seems that by January 1936 Leonard was no longer living with his wife Elsie. The Gloucester Journal reports on Saturday 19th January 1935 Elsie had applied to the courts for maintenance. She won the claim and Leonard was ordered to make payment.
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 01 July 20 19:27 BST (UK)
You may want to amend the date of the newspaper report - they only married in 1921.

If they were separated by 1936 & he  died 15yrs later in Devon - why would Elsie spend what little money he left transporting his body back to Gloucs?

They are together in 1939??
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Thursday 02 July 20 09:41 BST (UK)
Yes they married in 1921 at Twigworth, Gloucester.

The newspaper article about their separation should have read 1935 and not 1915. (Now corrected).
I think we can assume his children would have arranged for their father to be brought back to Gloucestershire don't you think. He had an address there. Also he did not have a Will so the Administration Bond only mentions his wife Elsie. So funds were available.

But where was he buried?
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 02 July 20 09:44 BST (UK)
Have you tried my suggestion in  Reply 1?
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Thursday 02 July 20 10:16 BST (UK)
Yes. I am grateful for the suggestion.
I will report any progresss.
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Monday 06 July 20 16:01 BST (UK)
Well done Nanny Jan, you were correct to point me in the direction of Cheltenham Cemetery.
He was cremated on 22nd September 1961. His ashes were scattered in Garden 4, Position 541.
There was a bronze plaque but sadly it was removed in 1987.
The cemetery very kindly sent a plan of the cemetery and gardens.

A bug thankyou to everyone who contributed.
Title: Re: Seeking Leonard Charles Allen Rowles
Post by: TROOPER ROLLO on Tuesday 21 July 20 16:26 BST (UK)
He was cremated at Cheltenham Crematorium on 22nd September 1961 and his ashes scattered in
Garden 4, Position 541. A bronze plaque was erected butwas sadly removed in 1987.

His wife's ashes were also scattered in the same plot.