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My maternal Great Grandfather was George William Starling who married lilian Louisa Orford in 1900.
My mother had a photo (well, ambrotype actually - on glass) which I now have, which was of her G G Grandmother - a French lady named Celementine Filis
I found the marriage of Clementine to Thomas William Starling easily and then found the Birth of George in Q1 1880.
All seems fine here, but as I delve down, inconsistencies start appearing...
1) The marriage of George William to Louisa Orford identified his father as George William not Thomas William
2) The baptism record identifies a Birth date of 15th December 1880 for George
3) The family Bible lists a Birth date of 14th November 1880 for George (though this was written by my Grandmother around the age 14, as the two youngest members of the family are not listed)
4) Between Q4 1880 and Q1 1881 there is only 1 George Starling registered - to Thomas and Clementine
5) The only father and son combination of George William & George William (in the London/Essex areas) has the younger registered as Q3 1880 which is too early
6)1901 census lists George with Thomas and Clementine and lists him as single
1901 also lists George (as William) living with Lilian Louisa next door to her parents
Based on my mothers and Grand mothers views, I believe this is the correct family line, but what are the odds that the marriage registrar wrote down the Grooms name under fathers name, Nan would get her dads birthday wrong and Thomas or Clementine forgot their son had been married 6 months (I can understand them listing him as living there, as there are multiple occurrences of the same thing throughout my tree)?
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Is the birth date in the baptism record definitely a BIRTH date or is it a baptism date? If only one is given it's a baptism date - which could fit with being a month after the birth
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His birth is registered quarter 1 in 1881
STARLING, GEORGE MMN FILLIS 1881 M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK
Ref Volume 01D Page 263
The birth you mention in point 5 has a maiden name as Barker
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Iolaus,
Yes it is his Birthdate (he was baptized in May 1881).
Indeed the earlier George was who I originally had as the father before getting the story of the French Grandmother from Mum. When backtracking I realized I had not checked his Birth record properly and being registered in Q3 was definitely not my relative (sadly I then had to clear out another 355 relatives from my tree as a result - hopefully I have learned from that!!)
Cheers
Kev
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Don't clear them out, you never know they might fit it somewhere,just put them to oneside
It is easy done if you don't get the right information to start with
Louisa Maud