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Title: Elinor Croft, bap. 1689 Hope-under-Dinmore
Post by: cimbrio on Monday 01 June 20 17:21 BST (UK)
I'm looking for information about the parents of my ancestor Elinor (or Eleanor) Croft, baptised in Hope-under-Dinmore on 21 November 1689. FamilySearch and Ancestry state her parents are Elizabeth and Humphrey Croft, and yet I cannot find any other children born to parents with this name combination. Moreover, I cannot find anything (death, marriage, will...) regarding Humphrey Croft. I've tried several spelling alternatives, to no avail.

I wonder if Humphrey's name may be mistaken (I haven't seen an image of the original record). For instance, there is a Margaret Croft bap 1683 in Eardisland to Herbert and Elizabeth Croft - might they be the same parents of Elinor?

Any help would much appreciated! ;D
Title: Re: Elinor Croft, bap. 1689 Hope-under-Dinmore
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 02 June 20 08:19 BST (UK)
looks like a sister Elizabeth Croft as a possible ?

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=croft&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=humphrey&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Herefordshire+and+Worcester%2C+England%2C+United+Kingdom&country__0__=GBR&region__0__=ENG&subregion__0__=HWR&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=1650&to=1689&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
Title: Re: Elinor Croft, bap. 1689 Hope-under-Dinmore
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 02 June 20 08:26 BST (UK)
It does look as though you will need to see a copy of the register. Both Ancestry & F M P  have transcripts but they are both sourced from familysearch so are identical being only one persons transcription of what it says
Title: Re: Elinor Croft, bap. 1689 Hope-under-Dinmore
Post by: cimbrio on Tuesday 02 June 20 19:27 BST (UK)
Thank you both. I will get in touch with Herefordshire Archives to see if they can send me an image of the original, and in the process, see if they can dig out a marriage record for Humphrey and Elizabeth.

Garstonite, sorry if I'm being a bit thick but I checked the link and (possibly because I don't have access to Geneanet) I wasn't able to see the details beyond Humphrey husband of Elizabeth (Hope-under-Dinmore) and Humphrey husband of Jane (Kidderminster). Do either of these two records include details of a daughter called Elizabeth? If so, are you able to see the place and date of baptism?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Elinor Croft, bap. 1689 Hope-under-Dinmore
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 03 June 20 07:31 BST (UK)
No Cimbrio - you are not thick - www.geneanet.org is a strange site - there are thousands of family trees on there free to view - but some Parish records are pay per view - unluckily for you that Elizabeth birth in Hope under Dinmore - father Humphrey - is a pay per view - so I cannot get the details for you - but at least you know there IS a possible sister to Elinor - maybe another member who has credit can have a look for you - fingers crossed  :)
Title: Re: Elinor Croft, bap. 1689 Hope-under-Dinmore
Post by: cimbrio on Wednesday 03 June 20 14:29 BST (UK)
Thanks Garstonite  ;D Someone with full access had a look, and it's basically the same data (and no image) as on Ancestry, FindMyPast and FamilySearch. And again, it's daughter Elinor's baptism - Elizabeth being the mother - not for a sister called Elizabeth. So it's back to square one. I've e-mailed Herefordshire Archives in the hope that they might send me a digital copy of the baptism. I've also asked them if they can look up a possible marriage for Humphrey and Elizabeth, although the Herefordshire FHS Marriages index (pre 1837) that I have does not appear to list a marriage between an Elizabeth X and a Humphrey Croft, no matter how creative I am with the spelling. Talk about a brick wall...!