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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Gerry on Friday 29 May 20 16:56 BST (UK)
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With no library access and drawing blanks on Family Search I would be grateful for help to find the following family in 1901 and 1911. Extract from 1891 is as follows
George Price, b. 1857, IOW
Rebecca Price, wife, b. 1857, IOW
Emily, 1879
Edith, 1881
Amelia, 1883
George, 1886
Oliver, 1886
Dorcas, 1890 (died 1891)
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Ancestry is throwing hints to a marriage
Ellen Rebecca Price
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Groom is. Walter TRUEMAN
But already together in 1901 IOW
Walter Trueman 43
Ellen Trueman 43
Henry G Price 15
Oliver Price 13
Hilda Trueman 4
Beatrice Trueman 2
Annie Trueman 8/12
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSXZ-B28
Amelia is a servant in the James household.
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PRICE, BEATRICE TRUEMAN -
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 589
PRICE, HILDA MAY CARR
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 615.
PRICE, ANNIE TRUEMAN CARR
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 570
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1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWQH-WXD
Not allowed to give you information off image, but I recommend you look when you can.
Some libraries have remote access to Ancestry at present. Has yours?
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Many thanks for your replies, sadly some gaps remain. Looking again I've found the following on Family Search which appears to be the Price family:
Death for a George Price in 1893 (born 1857) age 36.
And then in 1901 census:
Amelia Price, 18 (1883) b. IOW. Servant - with Albert Jones, Baker, in Ryde
Emily Price, 22 (1879) b. IOW. Servant - with Edward Simmons, Physician & Surgeon, Bishopstoke
Edith Price, 20 (1881) b.IOW. Servant - with John Gardner, Medical Practitioner, Eastleigh.
Of sons George (c.1886) and Oliver (c.1888) I've found no trace in 1901. Assuming their father George Price died 1893 it still leaves the question of what happened to George and Oliver, also to his wife, Rebecca?
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Isn’t Rebecca also Ellen?
Marriage says Ellen Rebecca Price.
did you mean to put 1911? For whereabouts of George & Oliver
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Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
Canham Alice I.Wight 2b 1369
Corney Ethel R I. Wight 2b 1369
Corney Rose I. Wight 2b 1369
Netten Harry D M I. Wight 2b 1369
Price Oliver I.Wight 2b 1369
And in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWQW-T9P
But I don’t know if it is the same Oliver Price.
However that one was killed in Action 1 11 1914, leaving Ethel Rose & one child
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1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWQ3-2YZ
Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
FROST Fanny Elizabeth Portsmouth 2b 1041
HILL Arthur Robert B Portsmouth 2b 1041
PHILLIPPS Annie Elizabeth Portsmouth 2b 1041
PRICE George Henry Portsmouth 2b 1041
Marriage : Fanny is a widow. Her father George Betterworth, Gardener (Added ..or Bettesworth)
George’s father is George Henry Price, deceased, Gardener
George himself a Groom
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Not sure that is our Oliver - son of George Henry and Emily, Born Lake, IoW
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1643757/price,-oliver/
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Oliver Price births on FreeBMD I for I o W 1887-1889
Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Price Oliver Uriah I. Wight 2b 619
Added...I see no other, over an even wider date range. so I think it must be the same man, and Emily is an error.
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1876 PRICE Ellen Frances CARR Ryde R41/E155
1878 PRICE Emily Jane CARR Ryde R44/E172
1880 PRICE Edith CARR Ryde R47/E312
1883 PRICE Amelia CARR Ryde R51/E396
1885 PRICE George Henry CARR Ryde R55/E139
1887 PRICE Oliver Uriah CARR Ryde R58/E156
1890 PRICE Dorcas Caroline CARR Brading Br1/E83
1892 PRICE Esther Caroline CARR Ryde R63/E444
1897 PRICE Hilda May CARR Ryde R67/E183
1900 PRICE Annie Trueman CARR Ryde R69/E491
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Hi,
It looks like the death found by Mckha489 is the right one,
https://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/iwmm/iwmm_results_2p.php?Seq=10109
His Service Records are on FindMyPast, he joined the army in 1904 and gives his next of kin as
Mrs E TRUEMAN (Mother)
31 Colenutts
Hayland
I of W
which is the same address as the family in 1901.
Regards,
Daisy
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Many thanks for your very helpful replies. Records point to Rebecca Price (nee Carr) becoming Ellen Trueman but I wonder where the additional name of 'Ellen' comes from (as recorded in the 1905 marriage).. I have been unable to find Ellen Rebecca Carr born c. 1858.
Free BMD records the birth of Rebecca Carr in 1860. (IOW 1860 2b 449) mother's name Carr.
Thank again for all your help.
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Hello again
Further to my last. Till I can access my local library my research sources are limited. Rebecca Carr born c.1860, mother's surname Carr. Census records for 1861 and 1871, before she married George Price in 1876. Grateful for help.
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A possibility
Rebecca Carr
1860
Isle of Wight
no mmn
1861 census
Newport I of W
age 0 with grandmother Ann b New York
654/10/15
1871 census
age 9 in Union Workhouse with
Henry Carr 5 & Jane Carr 4
all b Newport I of W
1164/138/12
FamilySearch has baptisms for Rebecca 1860 mother Esther Carr
Henry Carr 1865 parents Henry & Esther Carr
none for Jane Carr 1863
1851 census
Grandmother Ann b New York & husband Henry b Oldham
Daughter Ester b 1843 Gloucestershire
1663/11/14
Esther in 1861 1162/5/3 with Stanley family
Death for Esther Carr 1874 I of W age 31
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Fanny Elizabeth Price (nee Bettesworth) is my grandfather's daughter by his first marriage to Emily Rustill. On my tree we have her as married to George Price, then to Stephen Frost.
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Regarding George Price and Fanny Bettesworth's descendants. I would like to get in touch with Patricia who I used to correspond with in 2006. If anyone knows how to contact her could they please ask her to contact me on here. Thanks.
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I think George Henry Price born 1886 is the one who married my aunt Fanny Elizabeth Bettesworth. She was the eldest of 25 children and my father was the 24th so there was quite a gap (granddad had two wives). In the past I was in touch with Fanny's granddaughter but unfortunately have lost touch with her. The Bettesworth family came from Hayling Island in Hampshire (and further back from Sussex). Fanny died in Burgess Hill, Sussex in 1953. There is an Oliver Price married to a Rose Price on the Isle of Wight in the 1911 census so that could be him. Hope this helps a bit. If I manage to find the granddaughter or great granddaughter of Fanny I might be able to get more information.