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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: lynda49 on Wednesday 27 May 20 22:44 BST (UK)
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I am trying to get more information about the death of the man I believe is my great-uncle, Frederick Ridge (died 1958), and his son, of the same name (died 1980). He emigrated to Canada from England in 1904 and kept in touch with my great-aunt for many years but then the letters suddenly stopped and he disappeared.
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I couldn't find the Mont Royal cemetery records on line - I'm sure they're on one of the sites - I found my great grand father there a few years ago.
The hits on 'find a grave' just give the dates of burial and no other information.
However, there is a wealth of information about them on Ancestry.
They were both called Frederick Karl Ridge.
In 1907, Frederick senior married Inez Beatrice Calder in Longueuil, Quebec.
Her father is given as Frank Calder of Bristol, England, and his father as James Ridge of 'Ellet', Lancashire. That's what is looks like anyway. Perhaps you know where they came from. Possibly a French speaking Canadian trying to make sense of a Lancashire accent! Frederick was a 'clerk'.
They seem to have had at least 4 children.
Frederick Karl born 6.7.1908
Evelyn Marion Blanche born 16.8.1911
Rita born 29.9.1917
Derrick born 19.9.1915 (he died in WWII - 20th Sept 1943. Married.
All baptised on the same day - 26.1.1920
All given as father Frederick Karl Ridge of Montreal and his wife Inez Beatrice.
There is a Canadian Passenger list entry for Inez Beatrice and baby Frederick at just 11 months old going from Avonmouth (Bristol) back to Montreal on the ship 'Montcalm'. She says she had also been to Canada before some 5 years prior to this date. Looks as if she had been home to see her parents for a visit to show off her first born son.
No doubt other entries for her emigration and also that of Frederick senior. Looks as if they only met having got to Canada.
There are other records like Voters Lists and Censuses that mention them.
Lots of things to look at if you want a larger picture of their lives.
You can see images of all these original records on Ancestry.
Hope this helps.
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Was he Frederick Frank Ridge ? died 17 July 1958
FIND A GRAVE
Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108234516
Inez Beatrice Ridge --19 December 1965
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108234519
obituary - The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
21 Dec 1965, Tue Page 35
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/52300842/inez-ridge-21-december-1965/
Sandra
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Frederick Karl Ridge - died 21 October 1980 (born 1908 but not baptised until 26 January 1920)
FIND A GRAVE
Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108234517/frederick-karl-ridge
obituary - The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
24 Oct 1980, Fri Page 44
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/52300879/frederick-k-ridge-24-october-1980/
Sandra
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U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index - Evelyn Marion nee Ridge Marston - 5 August 1911 - 15 September 1996 - Frederick K Ridge - Mother Inez B Calder.
Appears on the Manitoba birth index - http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
obituary - The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
26 Sep 1996, Thu Page 56
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/52300726/obituary-for-evelyn-marston/
FIND A GRAVE
Trinity Episcopal Church Columbarium Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/20643488
husband John David Marstaon 1907 - 1987
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/206434716/john-david-marston
Sandra
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Derrick Ridge - son of Frederick and Inez
The Ottawa Journal
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
2 Oct 1943, Sat Page 1
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/52301023/lieut-derrick-ridge-2-october-1943/
Sandra
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Rita Ridge Soltendieck appears on Canada Voters List 1972 - Rita Mre Soltendleok - teacher - apt 3, Rue Dudemaine Street - also two sons Desmond (now deceased) and "C" both student.
Sandra
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Obituary - The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
13 Sep 1999, Mon Page 49
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/52301251/rita-nee-ridge-soltendieck-13/
Sandra
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obituary Desmond Soltendieck 1954 - 2019 - son of Rita Ridge Soltendieck
https://montrealgazette.remembering.ca/obituary/desmond-soltendieck-1077582395
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1911 census Winnipeg Manitoba
Frederick Ridge 30 born England. Imm 1907. Manager Insurance.
Inez B Ridge 21
Frederick K Ridge 2
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1911&op=&img&id=e001954406
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra. I believe the immigration date is actually 1904 (but it looks like a 7). Frederick married Inez Beatrice in 1907. This, the birthdates and the occupation fit with my great-uncle. Thanks so much for all of this fabulous information.
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Did you not see my first reply post?
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Thanks for your PMs lynda. Stay safe
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Obituary Rolf Soltendieck - husband of Rita.
The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
4 Jul 1978, Tue Page 46
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/52370756/rolf-soltendieck-4-july-1978/
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra. I believe the immigration date is actually 1904 (but it looks like a 7). Frederick married Inez Beatrice in 1907. This, the birthdates and the occupation fit with my great-uncle. Thanks so much for all of this fabulous information.
You're very welcome. Immigration dates can vary on census but obviously we have to transcribe exactly what they say. There was a passenger list for Fred in 1904.
Sandra
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Checking the 1881 Census, Frederick Ridge aged 0, so just born, lives in 'Catterall', Garstang, Lancashire.
Catterall is just a couple of miles from Garstang.
Father James Ridge, aged 56, mother Nancy, aged 44. (You said in a PM you knew his mother was Nancy), and on his marriage in Quebec to Inez Beatrice it gives his father as James from somewhere indecipherable in Lancashire.
Frederick's birth registration is Oct/Nov/Dec, so he would have been just a few months old by the time of the Census in 1881.
Also in 1881 in the household is Andrew Ridge aged 6, Mary E Dobson aged 17, step daughter, and John Parkinson aged 69, father in law.
In 1891 he lives with his mother at Catterall, a grocer, who is already a widow, and her daughter Mary Elizabeth Dobson. He is a scholar.
In 1901 he still lives with his mother. His sister is by now Mary E Jackson, and Rose Dobson is also in the household who is 4 years old.
He doesn't seem to appear in the 1911 Census in the uk, but appears to turn up as Frederick Karl in the Canadian Census.
Looks like this is him.
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June quarter 1884, James Ridge married Nancy Dobson Garstang.
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Here is a copy of a 1904 Canadian Passenger List (page 5) in case you haven't seen it -with Fredk Ridge aged 24 years Lancashire England - postman - going to Montreal on Lake Champlain arriving 22 October 1904.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=4286&
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pix/
Sandra
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Not sure what information is passing thru pm with goldie61 but here are a few snippets for you.
James Ridge (Died 21 November 1888) appears on the headstone inscription of his first wife Betsy (Elizabeth Nicholson) born 1829 who died in 1868. James and Elizabeth Nicholson married at Garstang 17 July 1853
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2VSG-89T
This is the couple on the 1861 census (under Ringe on Ancestry) Catterall Lancashire.
James Ringe 35 Ag Lab.
Betsy Ringe 32
Richard Ringe 7 died in 1877 as per headstone inscription.
Ellen Ringe 3
Sarah Ringe 1
Headstone Inscription :- Also showing Andrew Ridge died 10 September 1882.
St. Helen's Churchyard Garstang, Wyre Borough, Lancashire
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/195870047#view-photo=180439578
1871 census shows James Ridge prior to his marriage to Nancy Dobson boarding with the Parker family.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDX4-VP3
marriage (as listed in reply above)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DGL-G4K
James Ridge - Age 27 - Birth Year abt 1826 Marriage 23 Jul 1853
Parish Garstang, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Nicholson - Spouse Age 27 - Father Richard Ridge
Spouse Father John Nicholson - Info from Parish Register
1871 census Garstang Lancashire shows the 3 children of James and Betsy with the Nicholson family.
John Nicholson 80
Ellen Nicholson 68
Richard Nicholson 25
Sarah Ridge 12
John Ridge 8
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDX4-L87
Nancy Ridge second wife of James passed away 1921 Garstang.
Nancy Ridge 85 years Garstang 8e 818 - regsitered December 1921
Sandra
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James Ridge - Baptism Date 9 Jan 1825 Garstang, Lancashire, England
Father Richd Ridge - Mother Elizth Ridge -Parish Registers.
Sandra
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Frederick Ridge brother - James Ridge appears on Australian Death Index :- registration year 1914 - Queensland - Registration Number 002227 - parents James Ridge and Nancy Parkinson.
Queensland Passenger List - James Ridge - 1877 Lancashire and aged 23 years - London England
to Rockhampton Queensland arriving 7 February 1900 on the Duke of Portland.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks so much for this. All pieces of the puzzle! I did know that some of Frederick's relatives had emigrated to Australia but had no details. It seems that with the work that you and Goldie61 have done for me Frederick Karl is in fact my great uncle. His granddaughter is 93 so think we will spare her the news that her grandfather was a bigamist!
I have been PMing with Goldie61 because I couldn't figure out how to reply to her as well as you on this site. I'm new at this.
I appreciate all your hard work on this and hope to get to Montreal some day to visit these graves.
Stay well.
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Just tying up some loose ends.
I checked the GRO deaths in England for Frederick Ridge around 1910 (and beyond), just in case the Frederick from Garstang wasn't your man, but couldn't find anything that would have been him.
He does seem to have had a couple of children before he went off to Canada though - which is where your family comes into it I guess.
Gosh, one brother went to Canada, and the other to Australia - about as far apart as you can get!
I wonder what prompted such drastic action. Maybe they were just adventurers. :)