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Title: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: Adnepos_Iacobi on Monday 25 May 20 19:14 BST (UK)
I am searching for the parents of the above and not making progress.Looking for help.
He married Catharine Abbott 23 Aug 1840 at Prestwich St Mary, His occupation a spinner; his father is also Thomas LOMAS, spinner (not specified as dead); one of the witnesses is a 'professional', the other is William ROBERTS; bride and groom both made their mark. In 1841 working in a cotton factory, living at Back Lea St (London Road) Manchester, aged 20 years not born Lancashire. Hannah Lomas (50 years) with Mary (25) and Elizabeth (20) living next door. In 1851 a spinner living at 16 Murry St, Manchester, aged 32 years, born Manchester. In 1861 a cotton spinner visiting James and Martha Bennett at High Lea Terrace, Whitle, aged 42 born Lancashire 'Parington'. In 1871 a cotton spinner living in lodgings in Factory St Manchester, aged 52 years born Lancashire (Tottington).
Any helpful suggestion on father or mother is welcome!
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 26 May 20 11:05 BST (UK)
1841 next door to Thomas.
Hannah Lomas (50 years) with Mary (25) and Elizabeth (20) living next door.

A John Lomas married Hannah Raynes Manchester 14 Feb 1810 but no record for a son Thomas but there was William, Joseph & John.
Maybe John is the brother of James below……….time will tell.

1851
Thomas Lomas 32 Catherine Lomas 31 James Lomas 10 William Lomas 7 Thomas Lomas ? John Lomas 3

As their eldest son was James, if they followed the English naming Pattern that would likely be the name of the father of Thomas.

Two possible baptisms?
Thomas Lomas   14 Feb 1819   Manchester   James Lomas , Eliz? Lomas
Thomas Lomas   18 Apr 1819   Manchester   James Lomas , Catharine Lomas

The problem is the 1841 census N against Thomas name is clear and Y for Catherine, however I cannot find a record in Lancashire for Catherine, despite the 1851 census, so maybe the enumerator got it back to front?

Colin
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 26 May 20 11:25 BST (UK)
I cannot find a birth for Thomas father Thomas?

Colin
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: Adnepos_Iacobi on Tuesday 26 May 20 11:42 BST (UK)
I agree, even after looking hard, I've found no baptism for a Thomas son of Thomas in the 1815-1825 timeframe, regardless of location. Baptisms go missing. For the time being, I assume the marriage certificate of Thomas and Catharine, naming the groom's father as Thomas is correct and look for work-arounds. Checking out brothers, sisters, uncles and aunts is probably the way forward.
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Tuesday 26 May 20 12:30 BST (UK)
Have you been able to hunt local non-conformist records?
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: Adnepos_Iacobi on Tuesday 26 May 20 12:41 BST (UK)
Knowing the place of birth would help! I've tried Tottington and surrounds (Bury district) but not found offspring of Thomas LOMAS (esp. Thomas). Not tried 'Manchester'.
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 26 May 20 14:11 BST (UK)
Maybe related?
Marriage
8 Dec 1844
Bolton-le-Moors, St Peter, Lancashire
JANE Lomas, Full Age, Spinster, residence Great Bolton, Father THOMAS a Spinner
Spouse William HILTON

Cant find her in 1841 so far. (at least not with Parents)

There is this Family 1841 Census in Manchester;
Thos Lomas   55 Weaver
Ann Lomas   55
John Lomas   19
Ann Lomas   25
Alice Lomas   15
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: Adnepos_Iacobi on Tuesday 26 May 20 14:53 BST (UK)
The 1841 Census in Manchester Family; Thos Lomas 55 Weaver, Ann Lomas  55 &c are there in the 1851 and 1861 censuses. Irritatingly, the places of birth are always 'Lancashire' but a brother called Lewis LOMAS is with the family in 1851 -in 1841 he is a weaver.
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: HJH68 on Wednesday 19 January 22 16:42 GMT (UK)
Hi there, I wonder if you’ve made any progress with Thomas Lomas. Him and his wife Catherine were my 3 x great grandparents.
May I ask if you are descended from them?
I’ve been looking for a baptism for a Thomas myself today to no avail.
Title: Re: Ancestry of Thomas LOMAS (abt 1819-)
Post by: Adnepos_Iacobi on Saturday 03 June 23 17:37 BST (UK)
I am interested in Lomases (and Lomaxes) in the northwest of England, particularly around Chapel-en-le-Frith and Macclesfield.
This Thomas LOMAS is not a direct ancestor of mine.
I haven't made any progress with his origin and parents.